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Old 01-22-2010 | 11:41 PM
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Holy expensive crank Batman!
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 03:12 AM
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That's about normal for a billet crank...

remember, that thing used to be a solid 12" x 12" square bar of 4340 steel before it was machined.
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 08:48 AM
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yes i am aware of the numbers on 385 series big blocks I am also aware of emissions standards but i do not run stock big blocks I am trying to find engine stands and crossmember info. The original 5.4 has 70,000 miles and it will soon be for sale it runs great for a small block. I prefer low end torque and don't like diesel
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 08:54 AM
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yes i am aware of the numbers on 385 series big blocks I am also aware of emissions standards but i do not run stock big blocks I am trying to find engine stands and crossmember info the original 5.4 has 70,000 miles and it will soon be for sale it runs great for a small block I prefer low end torque and dont like deisel
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 12:01 PM
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Why don't you like diesel? Just cause you don't know much about them? I see lots of people staying away from them for that reason... just learn and enjoy the torque
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 12:32 PM
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Joe, I am most positive this will be a first time venture. The dash in the f250 will have to be totally fabricated because the instruments use the data line for information, very few of them read directly from the engine sensor.

When you say stands, you mean the mounts and brackets right? When I first read I thought you meant the tool on the floor that holds the engine and allows you to roll it around while working on it.
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 02:02 PM
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yes by stands i am refering to perches, mounts, whatever i need to mount engine in compartment
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by joestang460
yes by stands i am refering to perches, mounts, whatever i need to mount engine in compartment
You would be best off pulling the cross member from an OBS with a 460, and welding it into the SD.

Why not a 5.4 to V10 swap? I have a 460 and a V10, and the V10 is better in every way other than idle to 3000 RPM TQ, the 460 matches it there.

Not trying to make this a V10 vs 460 thread, just trying to understand your reasons.
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 05:19 PM
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Well, I was going to suggest a Vortech supercharger but they don't make them anymore for Ford trucks...

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Old 01-23-2010 | 05:51 PM
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Well, I was going to suggest a Vortech supercharger but they don't make them anymore for Ford trucks...
And you just can't let that go, can you?
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 05:52 PM
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I would rank them this way in cost and performance.

1) Cheapest and easiest. Rebuild the 5.4L. I may run into this someday too. I think you could make 30+ more hp with the right parts on a fresh rebuild.

2) A bit more expensive, just a little more involved. Swap in a V-10 for the 5.4L. I have driven a few. They are nice, but like stated they still don't have the off-idle feel of a big block Ford.

3) The 460 swap. Time is money, sorting out and trial fitting things will be heavy. The engine build can be relatively mild cost wise, I would say much cheaper than rebuilding a V-10. Like stated the transmission selection will be crucial. I would look for some type of Overdrive to make the truck useable. If I am not wrong, I think the E4OD can be used without a computer?? Check with Baumann Engineering, they deal with all the Ford transmission. Thier websites is helpful in learning too. I would go that way with the trans.
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 06:05 PM
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And you just can't let that go, can you?
To be honest, I'm seeing more aftermarket companies dropping their products for the Ford trucks... which is a little concerning. I can only assume the reason is because Ford trucks are so damn good from the factory!
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Furian
Well, I was going to suggest a Vortech supercharger but they don't make them anymore for Ford trucks...

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But you can still find Vortech systems for the 5.4L 3V. Summit still sells them (and the Roush system). Might also want to look at a Powerdyne as they are quite easy to install.
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 06:32 PM
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I'd think some of it has to do with the fact that trucks in general are getting more powerful every year. Also maybe the fact that the economy stinks and people probably have less to spend on expensive modifications.

Or maybe they are that good...
 
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Old 01-23-2010 | 06:55 PM
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But you can still find Vortech systems for the 5.4L 3V. Summit still sells them (and the Roush system). Might also want to look at a Powerdyne as they are quite easy to install.
Summit must be selling the remaining inventory... Votech doesn't even list Ford trucks on their official website. Roush doesn't sell a supercharger for the 5.4L 2V engine.
 


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