So it is a MII style IFS. Milodon 30745 is a front sump 429 Oil Pan. Jegs, Summit. Will that work for you?

 

Every 429-460 with a Mustang II that I have seen needs a middle or rear sump oil pan. I’m not sure on a 56 but I think that you have the engine to far forward, ……….have you (mocked up) test installed the engine with the rad support and radiator in? You might have to recess (cut) the firewall?

 

here's a pic of mine... the pan is considered a mid sump but I'd say it's rear sump...




and here's a shot of the crossmember (Heidt's) that we 'relieved" a little to move the engine a little more forward...just to get a little more firewall room




sorry I don't have a pic of the engine mounted in the frame

later
john

 

hello, sorry, but this is not a Mustang 2, this is the TCI custom IFS this is somtehing different. however the position and the measurements of the crossmember are the same and without cutting the firewall i think its not possible to find a production oil pan!?
but i´m still interested in getting some pics

thanks

ingo

 

Looks like the Mustang II cross member, with different spring hats and springs. uses the same front mount rack & pinion, and the same lower A arm design.

that doesn't change how the engine will sit

So, back again, we think that you will need a mid sump pan, production on
mid 80's ford Vans. this is what most of us have done. John appears to have the dual sum style pan, typically used in trucks and later modem mustangs when the engine is moved forward over the front suspension cross member. There is NOT enough room on the F100 to do that (move the engine that far forward.

On my 55 with 460, I had to move the radiator into the radiator support to get enough clearance for the electric fans, using a stock 460 waterpump.
I am using the Volare front suspension, and there is JUST enough room inside the crossmember/steering linkage opening to fit the mid sump pan.

Sam

 

I just got back into town this afternoon. I will try to get the pics of my crossmember and oil pan in the next day or two, as soon as possible.

 

i would be very thankfull to get your pics wayne, you live in riverside!? i am in pomona and in bakersfield in the end of april, perhaps we can meet us...?

ingo

 

Ingo, These are the best shots that I could get right now. The first three are of the header clearance for steering linkage,they also show the upper portion of the weld in brackets for the motor mounts.












This one shows the pan and crossmember from the front.








These last two show the pan at the rear of the crossmember. It has a "relief" or beveled edge like John's.







This is the best I can do for now. I would have to get the truck up on a lift to get better shots I
think.

Give me a heads up when you are getting ready to come over and we'll see if we can get together. For me it would have to be while you were in Pomona.

 

While you guys are talking about rear sump pans being used with a 460 motor and a Mustang II cross member does a 302 motor with a Mustang II cross member allso need a rear sump pan.

 

I think the answer is yes.. altho you 'may' be able to mount it further back, due to its smaller size.

Also may be able to mount it higher as Wayne mentions below, but the tranny will start causing problems at the cab too.

Sam

 

No clue! but you may also be able to mount it higher? giving a pan more clearance.

 

Hello Wayne,

thank you very much for taking pictures for me :-) i´m really wondering that there is so much space for your oilpan, but i will try it again and take the engine with trans on its place (without oilpan) to measure how manx romm is for such a pan.

thank you (perhaps we see us in pomona or bakersfield?) ;-)
ingo

 

Guys believe it or not :-),


...after almost seven years i needed to find a decision i restarted that Project. I didn´t want to move that heavy engine up and forward because of its bad weight Distribution, but every else solution would be too much efforts. So now i´ll raise it and move it forward otherwise my oilpump would hit the steeringrack (if the engine would place in the same position like before). I will cut the oilpan as soon as i found the final engine position, and build the front part of the pan by my self.
Because of the new engine position and angle and because of the lowering i need to relocate my rear axle also. Otherwise i would have a bad pinionangle. So i will go with a 4 link rear Suspension. What 4 link would you guys recommend?
thank you for your help.


Ingo

 

sorry, by a mistake i created two accounts here.

Guys believe it or not :-),


...after almost seven years i needed to find a decision i restarted that Project. I didn´t want to move that heavy engine up and forward because of its bad weight Distribution, but every else solution would be too much efforts. So now i´ll raise it and move it forward otherwise my oilpump would hit the steeringrack (if the engine would place in the same position like before). I will cut the oilpan as soon as i found the final engine position, and build the front part of the pan by my self.
Because of the new engine position and angle and because of the lowering i need to relocate my rear axle also. Otherwise i would have a bad pinionangle. So i will go with a 4 link rear Suspension. What 4 link would you guys recommend?
thank you for your help.


Ingo

 

i´m working on it....