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Old 06-24-2008 | 11:11 AM
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Replacement Door VIN tags?

I know this is a LONG shot but is there any way to get a replacement door VIN tag? I bought a '79 crewcab and the driver's door has been replaced. Unfortunately the person who did this didn't swap the buck tag over to the new door so now it has a VIN that doesn't match the title there. There is a sticker from Ford Canada on the body in the door jamb with the correct VIN, the cowl VIN tag shows the correct VIN and the frame shows the correct VIN. I don't suspect any foul play, I would just like to have everything match. Especially because if I get pulled over, that will be the first place that the officer will look........ Plus, I just want everything to match!
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 11:43 AM
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I don't know if this outfit is still in business, but they are a graphics arts firm that made replacement serial # plates for old tractors. I just sent them the old plate and they made a brand new copy. I bought several from them 10 years or so ago. I assume they could put different numbers on it if you told them what they are. It is: Kayenay Graphics, 840 S. 12th St. NW, Mason City, IA 50401, 641-424-2535.
If you go that route, post back and let us know if they are still doing it.
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 11:45 AM
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Marti Auto Works reproduces them as well. I think the fee is close to 50 bucks to redo one.
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 01:01 PM
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Great news! I thought it would be much tougher than this. Looks like Marti Auto Works has a contract with Ford to do exactly what I need. I have an email into them right now. I'll let you all know how it goes. Thanks everyone!
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 02:50 PM
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Rob, I recently received my VIN tag along with a new door jamb sticker from Marti. Basically, you order a Deluxe build report and tell them you want a new tag and/or sticker. For both metal tag and sticker along with the report, I paid just over $100. It was a bit expensive, but well worth it. Tag/sticker are EXACTLY like original. Now, I just need to rivets to get mine on. Also, just a heads up, It took something like 3 months to get my stuff. Hopefully, it won't take that long with yours, but the quality was worth the wait.
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 04:42 PM
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Pictures Buck?
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob C
Great news! I thought it would be much tougher than this. Looks like Marti Auto Works has a contract with Ford to do exactly what I need. I have an email into them right now. I'll let you all know how it goes. Thanks everyone!
Marti bought a ton of Ford related literature including build sheets, etc from FoMoCo just before Ford tossed it all away.

AFAIK, there's no contract between Ford and Marti.

Marti provides the build sheets, VIN labels on some but not all vehicles dating back to the 1960's.

The process to get new VIN tags from Ford originally (prolly now, too) was much more involved then just providing a VIN number.

The particular state DMV, Ford parts department, body shop or garage (if applicable), legal owner of the vehicle and in some cases the police were involved.

All this rigamarole was done this-away to prevent stolen vehicles from getting factory VIN tags with new numbers.

The dealers partsguy called FoMoCo on a special phone number and had to provide the dealers secret P&A code, then the process could begin.

A signed statement from the legal owner had to be sent to Ford, the VIN had to be run thru the DMV to prove that the legal owner owned the vehicle.

In some states the police and/or DMV investigator had to come out and look at the vehicles frame number to see of it matched the VIN on the plate and title.

All this was necessary to replace the VIN labels, usually the reason was damage to the label due to accidents, fire or theft.

The only way to get this info was thru the parts department, and then only by an authorized member of the department.

The whole process was a time consuming PITA!
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bucks77ford
Now, I just need to rivets to get mine on.
Speaking of rivets, is anyone making (or has anyone found) replacement rivets? I would like mine re-installed like original...
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 05:15 PM
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Pictures Buck?
I don't have any pics right now. But, they look exactly like the original. I can't say enough on the quality. And the report was very detailed.

And I was thinking that maybe it took so long to get the information was a "waiting" period. I was never told that or anything, but I have to wonder if it was a legal thing to prevent any tampering with a vehicle. If a vehicle was stolen and had to wait 3 months to get a VIN plate or sticker, that would cause some issues right there.
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 05:18 PM
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Speaking of rivets, is anyone making (or has anyone found) replacement rivets? I would like mine re-installed like original...
I found this place, but I haven't ordered any. If they are correct, they are expensive.


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Old 06-24-2008 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bucks77ford
And I was thinking that maybe it took so long to get the information was a "waiting" period. I was never told that or anything, but I have to wonder if it was a legal thing to prevent any tampering with a vehicle. If a vehicle was stolen and had to wait 3 months to get a VIN plate or sticker, that would cause some issues right there.
See post #7 above.

Is what Marti is doing inre to VIN's legal, or not?

Depends on the state you reside in.
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 06:49 PM
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I saw the rivets on Marti's page also.....
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 07:45 PM
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On some of these vehicles, what we call a VIN plate is actually a build plate, so Marti can legally replicate them. I had the same question about my 76. What I thought was the VIN plate on the door, is not really the VIN plate, but a build plate. The complete VIN is actually located on the right frame rail, and it is stamped, not a plate.
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 10:08 PM
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RobC - I called Marti Auto works a couple weeks ago about making a duplicate door jamb VIN sticker for my 1978 crew before I have it repainted. John told me he could not reproduce the VIN stickers for Canadian built vehicles (ie. our beloved crewcabs) because he doesn't have the correct blanks. So, if the door tag has Made In Canada in painted letters, (which I think it does), I don't think Marti can make these. You can double check with him if ya still want to.
 
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Old 06-24-2008 | 10:27 PM
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There are no Canadian specific Warranty Plates used after 1965.

1966 and later...they're the same as US Warranty Plates.

The white plastic sticker is the Certification Label, not the Warranty Plate. AFAIK, it's the same for US or Canada, as long as the truck was sold new in the USA.

The only thing Canadian in the VIN in the C Assembly Plant code denoting Ontario Canada Assembly Plant.

I've decoded dozens of US VIN's where the truck was sold new in places like Pittsburgh PA or Albany NY, etc, but the truck was assembled in Canada. Not all of these were crew cabs, either.
 


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