2,700 pounds in the bed? I'd like to see what it did to your ranger...

Tim

 

well actually it was my dads then, but i was 16 and yea it wasnt good especially since it only has 3 leafs while the newer ones have 4 or 5 with the payload package but it was only for a couple miles and it did it, oh it was a yard of stone if anyones wondering barely fit

 

ford was the best

 

If they do not come out with an amazing MPG engine SOON they will be sunk. They should have been working on a new Ranger a long time ago as well. We are heading for a MAJOR economic crash and Ford is not taking this into account at all. Not that they are alone...

 

Ford will be fine. They will have to weather the storm just like us.

 

One of those doom and gloom guys huh? Try to cut back a little on the CNN, the sky isn't falling. It's going to be O.K.

 

i heard from a feild sevice engineer that spends a lot of time in Detroit that the F-150 diesel that they have been working on is doing between 28-35 MPG and they arnt have many issues with it.gonna be nice to see this thing hit the road.

 

deisel is $4 a gallon now.

need some kind of hybrid gasoline vehicle,

what happened to the hydraulic hybrid, a myth???

something needs to happen, lobby the government for infrastructure improvements to support alternative fuels.

look at hydrogen.

i cant believe an '09 truck is getting released with the pathetic MPGs

 

He's blowing smoke up your *** on MPG it won't be even close to those numbers, in my area deisel hit $4.30 a gal.!!!!

 

Sure they are.

 

I prefer to call it an outright fabtication. I suspect all ford ever did was make a pastel picture of it to try and get some of the attention that toyota and GM were getting when they were unveiling real hybrids (instead of fantasy). There is no way anything that weighs as much as an F150 can get 60 MPG no matter what transmission is used.

The gasoline piston engine cannot go past 22-30% efficiency in this context, and that has remaned unchanged since the model-T. Running on battery power could result in a cost equivalent of 60 MPG, but an all electric F150 ain't gonna happen.

 

wasn't the hydraulic system supposed to save energy lost in when braking? I didn't know it had anything to do with the engine.

 

Dont know about 2700 lbs. But I have seen 18 square bales in the back of one...
The muffler was dragging the ground too, but it didnt damage anything.

 

i skipped a few pages and im gonna cut to the point, a high hp truck in diesel form CAN get very good mileage, many of us have seen the 700-800hp trucks they compare in diesel power magazine...they compared like 10-trucks all over 600hp at the tires all the way up to like 1000hp and the worst one got 15.. the best got like 22 so that leads one to believe 25 shouldnt be a problem in a halfton, HOWEVER the new e missions crap lately has been cutting 2-4mpg off what some of the current motors are capable of. the new 4.4 that is spose to be in the f150 is suppost to have a whole different system in the exhaust so it might be a turning point on the mileage going the other way...i would be blaming the epa for any lack of mileage per gallon.... not ford, ive heard up to 4mpg gains on the 6.4 powerstroke without all the emissions crap... i guess we wait...

 

Yes, that was the claim. But if its true than you should be getting 60 MPG right now (or close to it) when you are on the highway. The hydraulic hybrid still gets all its energy from the gasoline engine.

There is energy that is lost in braking and recovering it would raise the MPGs but on average 10%-15% improvement is all you will see. Gasoline - electric hybrids have used this method for years, and bettery powered cars even longer. But there will be NO improvement once at highway speeds since you don't use brakes once at cruising speed so there is no braking energy to recover.

What you have to remember is that those were ford's claims and they were not indepentantly verified. I'm not saying that the EPA test is realistic, but it is at least its the same test from one vehicle to the next giving a relative comparison. The fact that ford failed to produce a prototype makes me think that it was more or less made up.

You have to be really carefull about MPG claims on hybrid vehicles. Ford isn't the first one to fudge numbers on hybrid MPGs.