I can't say personally, never having owned a 460. I do have a guy at work that owns a 460 that he uses to pull his construction trailer with. Loaded it is about 8500 lbs. I know when he parks the trailer at the bottom of an incline, he comes looking to borrow my V10 to pull it up the incline, then when he's on level, he hooks his 460 to it and drives off. Both are manual trans, he just say's that the V10 pulls it up easier.

That is saying nothing bad about the 460. He may use granny low in mine, or maybe it has more power, I don't know the specifics as to why. I just know he uses mine to get up an incline. He has offered to buy it from me a couple times. As far as mileage, I tell him what I get, he say's his is pretty close to the same. FWIW.

 

i was just reading another thread here where someone asked for pictures of a new v10, they were incrediable, what a rats nest, it reminds me of the late 60's & early 70's when GM was putting the 427;s in a corvette , when it came time for a tune up you would have to jack up the engine to change the plugs. Do you guys actually work on these beast? i would much rather have a simple uncomplicated 460 with raw power

 

Its nothing like a 6.0L PowerStroke....everything is back under the cab.

 

Either your full of crap or your buddy is ignorant....8500lbs??? please, that's a baby load, if his truck cant pull that then it's on the verge of going south, simple as that...but that's about as far fetched a story as i've ever heard..."dude, can i borrow your truck to get my trailer up the hill, then I'll hook mine back up?" ..."whatcha gonna do when you get to the next hill?" ....""i'll give ya a call and we can swap trucks again to get me back up"

blah blah, say what ya want, but i can tell you I've had BOTH of my trucks-read above to see what they are-loaded to the tune of 26,000lbs hauling in sand/salt with a dump trailer and I WILL TELL YOU first hand info, the 460 flat out makes this V10 look like a chump....say my v10 has 2 valves, i dont care, apples to oranges...and as far as parts and ability for the average joe to work on it...460 all the way...when was the last thread you read about guy scared to change plugs in their 460 in their own ****ing truck????

old V10-good motor, but definately not better than what it was supposed to replace...new V10, no personal experience so i cant comment, but ANYTHING is better than the original...only way to go as bad or worse...302cid again

I will say I've never had the opportunity to ddrive/tow with a modern day 3 valve V10, but i can tell you matter of factly, this 00 V`10 is no more as powerful as my 302 in my old F150, I've NEVER been impressed with it...not saying it's a bad motor, not saying that at all since it does what i ask of it...just merely stating my F250 with the 460 does the same job muuuuch better is all. and it's easier to work on, replace, fix, etc....

 

What do you suppose would happen if you took a stock 460 & put an RV cam in it?

 

Cam makes a big difference. Back when my dad and I each had a '79 F250, we both had 400Ms. His had a 4 barrel with edelbrock intake and upgraded cam. Mine was bone stock with a 2 barrel. His absolutely blew mine out of the water. He also previously had a higher lift cam in it which felt like it made another 50hp increase.

 

Are you serious? That has to be the biggest load of BS I've read thus far on FTE. The 302 F-150 being more powerful than a SD V10. Go away.

 

Yeah, 8500 lbs. I said incline, not hill. No need for me to explain further, you have all the answers already. I would say though, that with that and the rest of your comments, you don't live in reality. I suspect that he uses mine to use granny low. I have never driven his truck so I can't make a comparison, I just know that he drives his and has used mine a couple of times to pull his trailer up the grade. Don't like it, or agree with it? Tough.

 

The way my old F150 with the 302 felt under a load that pushed the truck, my F350 feels the same way pulling a load that pushes the truck, i guess is was my bad for not explaining better initally.

I dont have all the answers, but i have first hand experience since we're hauling something more often than not weather it be a trailer full of lumber to a job site, skid loader with attachments, dump trailer full of sand/salt that tips the scales combined weight anywhere from 23,000lbs to a touch over 26,000lbs....that is the facts, that is first hand experience, so i'd like to think since i have both trucks, both engines being asked to compare i have about as much realistic info to offer since these two trucks are used daily and have been for years, side by side....what more real life, current, factual information do you want me to provide since i called BS on the truck swapping? If your buddies 460 is on it's last leg, i can surely agree it'll be down on power, but if it's properly running, the 460 just flat out has more nutz all the way around than this V10. And i'll say this again for you diehard V10 lovers, I'm not saying the V10 is'nt a good engine, it is, it's performed everything I've ever asked of it since we bought it, but both engines, completely stock, the 460 in my F250 is a better tower/hauler......neither get gas mileage so i dont even take that into account, when your spending on average $600-1000/wk to fuel the trucks we have, does milage really matter???

If you dont like my real life answer, sorry, but I'm not going to come in here and lie about my real world results to appease all you die hard V10 guys.

 

The 4.6, 5.4, and 6.8 V-10 are the "modular" family of motors. It's called modular because most parts are supposed to be interchangeable between motors, make for cheaper and simpler manufacturing.

An RV cam simply adds more grunt at the bottom end and robs it from the top end.

Anybody who says the 460 makes the v-10 "look like a chump" is either smoking crack, something is wrong with the V-10, or the 460 is seriously hopped up.

The 460 is old technology. It was great in its day, but will not hold a candle to the V-10 with all other things being equal.

I think the old 390 FEs were one of the best motors Ford ever made, but I'd never claim that it could outpull a V-10. Just common sense...

1996 460... 245 hp @4000 rpm, 400 ft/lb torque @2200 rpm

2000 V-10...310 hp @4250 rpm, 425 ft/lb torque @3250 rpm (2-valve)
2008 V-10...362 hp @4750 rpm, 457 ft/lb torque @3250 rpm (3-valve)

The numbers don't lie

 

I've been blessed to have all those engines : 390 FE (the 390GT version...in a '68 Torino GT), both 460s (4V&EFI versions), and now two of the 3v V10s. Plus, four EFI302s in Broncos& Flareside pickup, two EFI351s in a Bronco & pickup, a EFI300 I-6 in a Bronco, both 2v&3v 5.4Ls in an Expedition& pickups. All engines served us well.

 

Your entitled to your opinion.

Every dyno graph I ever saw showed that a stock 90s 460 falls short of a stock 6.8l 2V and 3V of any year both on the dyno and in acceleration tests. Many people here in the V10 forum used to have 460s that they used for pulling and now have V10s and they also say the 6.8l is a better tow vehicle.

The 460 or 6.8l are not rated to haul the GCWR you are hauling. Maybe you should get the proper sized truck for the weight.

 

Well said.

I love the older motors including the 460. I have the original 302 in my 74' F-100 w/4spd and granny gear that still runs like a champ, but it will more than likely be outpulled by a modern F-150 with the 4.6l or even a 4.2l V6.

 

Yeah my father-in-law found out that very thing... traded in a '97 F-150 4.6 manual for his '96 F-150 5.0 auto... says the 4.6 wound up tighter than the 5.0 (OHCs for ya!) but that it definitely pulled better.

 

So the '96 460 may have only made 245hp and 400 lb-ft but didn't the old ones from the late '60s early '70s make a lot more? granted they were carbeurated and old tech. but I kinda want to see how one of those would stack up against a V10 in pulling power. lol of course the V10 would smoke it in fuel mileage.