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11-07-2007 | 05:48 PM
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Yes, we have replaced both the stock bulbs with Phillips dual relay HID lamps. The plow light towers have seperate HID lights, as do the spreaders. Much more light, much lower draw.
Why Ford hasn't figured out that HID should be an option is a mystery to me. One of 2 grouses about the new truck.
Why Ford hasn't figured out that HID should be an option is a mystery to me. One of 2 grouses about the new truck.
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11-07-2007 | 10:00 PM
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11-08-2007 | 07:12 PM
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www.brightheadlights.com
Call Bruce and tell him I sent you.
For most applications, especially snow, you want 5100K color temp which is very white but not blue (6300K)
You do not need high beams with HID. Low beams are plenty, which is hard to believe until you see what the output is.
Cat, John Deere, and most of the contruction crowd are moving this direction. They cost a fortune, but last a long time and the light output is simply unbelievable.
As I posted above, the lack of HID, even as an option, on a $50,000 pickup truck is absolutely inexcusable.
Call Bruce and tell him I sent you.
For most applications, especially snow, you want 5100K color temp which is very white but not blue (6300K)
You do not need high beams with HID. Low beams are plenty, which is hard to believe until you see what the output is.
Cat, John Deere, and most of the contruction crowd are moving this direction. They cost a fortune, but last a long time and the light output is simply unbelievable.
As I posted above, the lack of HID, even as an option, on a $50,000 pickup truck is absolutely inexcusable.
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11-08-2007 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pbeering
www.brightheadlights.com
Call Bruce and tell him I sent you.
For most applications, especially snow, you want 5100K color temp which is very white but not blue (6300K)
You do not need high beams with HID. Low beams are plenty, which is hard to believe until you see what the output is.
Cat, John Deere, and most of the contruction crowd are moving this direction. They cost a fortune, but last a long time and the light output is simply unbelievable.
As I posted above, the lack of HID, even as an option, on a $50,000 pickup truck is absolutely inexcusable.
Call Bruce and tell him I sent you.
For most applications, especially snow, you want 5100K color temp which is very white but not blue (6300K)
You do not need high beams with HID. Low beams are plenty, which is hard to believe until you see what the output is.
Cat, John Deere, and most of the contruction crowd are moving this direction. They cost a fortune, but last a long time and the light output is simply unbelievable.
As I posted above, the lack of HID, even as an option, on a $50,000 pickup truck is absolutely inexcusable.
http://www.brightheadlights-hid.com/...ights-Kits.htm
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11-08-2007 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pbeering
www.brightheadlights.com
Call Bruce and tell him I sent you.
For most applications, especially snow, you want 5100K color temp which is very white but not blue (6300K)
You do not need high beams with HID. Low beams are plenty, which is hard to believe until you see what the output is.
Cat, John Deere, and most of the contruction crowd are moving this direction. They cost a fortune, but last a long time and the light output is simply unbelievable.
As I posted above, the lack of HID, even as an option, on a $50,000 pickup truck is absolutely inexcusable.
Call Bruce and tell him I sent you.
For most applications, especially snow, you want 5100K color temp which is very white but not blue (6300K)
You do not need high beams with HID. Low beams are plenty, which is hard to believe until you see what the output is.
Cat, John Deere, and most of the contruction crowd are moving this direction. They cost a fortune, but last a long time and the light output is simply unbelievable.
As I posted above, the lack of HID, even as an option, on a $50,000 pickup truck is absolutely inexcusable.
Just my two cents.
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11-09-2007 | 12:51 AM
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11-09-2007 | 01:16 AM
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Ok, not to step on any toes here but I think a few things need to be cleared up. Using an HID kit is not a good idea. The kit, basically takes and HID capsule, and fits it onto standard halogen bulb bases. And then is used in the stock reflective housing. Stock reflective housings are not intended to be used for HID bulbs.
However, the link above was showing retrofits, and those are the way to go if you don't have the time to do a retro yourself. Stay away from the kits!
1)Using an HID kit, you will lose usable light as compared to your stock setup.
2) It will be dangerous for other drivers on the road who have to deal with the rediculous amount of glare coming off these kits.
The best way to use HID bulbs as headlights in our trucks is to do a complete retrofit. That means getting the projector, ballast, and bulb from a car that is equipped with HID from the factory. You would then customize the stock housing to fit the projector. After you get everything leveled out and aimed properly you will have a dramatic increase in visible light which will not blind oncoming drivers.
Here is the link to the retrofit I did on my 2006 F250 using the projectors, bulbs and ballasts off of a Acura TL. They are bi xenon so I have high and low beams hooked up on here.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...t=HID+retrofit
However, the link above was showing retrofits, and those are the way to go if you don't have the time to do a retro yourself. Stay away from the kits!
1)Using an HID kit, you will lose usable light as compared to your stock setup.
2) It will be dangerous for other drivers on the road who have to deal with the rediculous amount of glare coming off these kits.
The best way to use HID bulbs as headlights in our trucks is to do a complete retrofit. That means getting the projector, ballast, and bulb from a car that is equipped with HID from the factory. You would then customize the stock housing to fit the projector. After you get everything leveled out and aimed properly you will have a dramatic increase in visible light which will not blind oncoming drivers.
Here is the link to the retrofit I did on my 2006 F250 using the projectors, bulbs and ballasts off of a Acura TL. They are bi xenon so I have high and low beams hooked up on here.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...t=HID+retrofit
Last edited by LaxPlaya21; 11-09-2007 at 01:21 AM.
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11-09-2007 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by aortizexcursion
This one has high/low beam, or at least thats what they say, are these street legal and do you have any pics of your truck with the lights?
Here are a couple of links to more info on HID conversions.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...dvantages.html
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11-15-2007 | 02:31 PM
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I agree no HID kits are legal for on road. Neither is speeding, that being said I have a Bi Xenon HID set from xenonrider.com it was $189 with shipping and I am very happy with them. As for loosing usable light, obviously you have not driven my truck. The light output and fill is astonishing compared to the factory halogens. I was also very carefull to make sure that the light cutoff and glare is the same on my truck before and after. I took pictures both up close and at a distance as well as looking at and away from the lights. I also had a chance to look at a factory mustang cobra HID setup and they use the same bulb setup as the conversion kits on the market. My H beams work great as well. I have a 2004 superduty F250 with 9007 bulbs. The conversion kit I have had a relay setup included and was very well designed. It also has a one year warranty. My main concern when installing this kit was that it not be bothersome to other drivers. I think the kit greatly increased my safety without impacting other drivers saftey at all. Anyone have questions I would be happy to answer them. My next upgrade is going to be the HID kit for the factory foglights and then I will start on my wifes Mariner.
Oh one more thing I think the design of the factory reflector has a huge effect on how much glare or how well the HID's will work compared to the stock bulbs. Lots of factory HID's are not projectors. The mustang is one.
Oh one more thing I think the design of the factory reflector has a huge effect on how much glare or how well the HID's will work compared to the stock bulbs. Lots of factory HID's are not projectors. The mustang is one.
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11-15-2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LaxPlaya21
Ok, not to step on any toes here but I think a few things need to be cleared up. Using an HID kit is not a good idea. The kit, basically takes and HID capsule, and fits it onto standard halogen bulb bases. And then is used in the stock reflective housing. Stock reflective housings are not intended to be used for HID bulbs.
However, the link above was showing retrofits, and those are the way to go if you don't have the time to do a retro yourself. Stay away from the kits!
1)Using an HID kit, you will lose usable light as compared to your stock setup.
2) It will be dangerous for other drivers on the road who have to deal with the rediculous amount of glare coming off these kits.
The best way to use HID bulbs as headlights in our trucks is to do a complete retrofit. That means getting the projector, ballast, and bulb from a car that is equipped with HID from the factory. You would then customize the stock housing to fit the projector. After you get everything leveled out and aimed properly you will have a dramatic increase in visible light which will not blind oncoming drivers.
Here is the link to the retrofit I did on my 2006 F250 using the projectors, bulbs and ballasts off of a Acura TL. They are bi xenon so I have high and low beams hooked up on here.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...t=HID+retrofit
However, the link above was showing retrofits, and those are the way to go if you don't have the time to do a retro yourself. Stay away from the kits!
1)Using an HID kit, you will lose usable light as compared to your stock setup.
2) It will be dangerous for other drivers on the road who have to deal with the rediculous amount of glare coming off these kits.
The best way to use HID bulbs as headlights in our trucks is to do a complete retrofit. That means getting the projector, ballast, and bulb from a car that is equipped with HID from the factory. You would then customize the stock housing to fit the projector. After you get everything leveled out and aimed properly you will have a dramatic increase in visible light which will not blind oncoming drivers.
Here is the link to the retrofit I did on my 2006 F250 using the projectors, bulbs and ballasts off of a Acura TL. They are bi xenon so I have high and low beams hooked up on here.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...t=HID+retrofit
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11-15-2007 | 09:03 PM
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hid kits are not the way to go.
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11-16-2007 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RACERX7775
i have had both types. the kits ARE NOT the way to go. thanks to laxplaya21, here is what i did with mine. 07 range rover projectors.
My beam cutoff before adjusting:
My retrofitted headlight with Acura TL projectors
Hereis a reference from danielsternlighting.com for the people who didnt want to click, in regards to putting HID bulbs into stock reflective housings:
The most dangerous part of the attempt to "retrofit" Xenon headlamps is that sometimes you get a deceptive and illusory "improvement" in the performance of the headlamp. The performance of the headlamp is perceived to be "better" because of the much higher level of foreground lighting (on the road immediately in front of the car). However, the beam patterns produced by this kind of "conversion" virtually always give less distance light, and often an alarming lack of light where there's meant to be a relative maximum in light intensity. The result is the illusion that you can see better than you actually can, and that's not safe.
It's tricky to judge headlamp beam performance without a lot of knowledge, a lot of training and a lot of special equipment, because subjective perceptions are very misleading. Having a lot of strong light in the foreground, that is on the road close to the car and out to the sides, is very comforting and reliably produces a strong impression of "good headlights". The problem is that not only is foreground lighting of decidedly secondary importance when travelling much above 30 mph, but having a very strong pool of light close to the car causes your pupils to close down, worsening your distance vision...all the while giving you this false sense of security. This is to say nothing of the massive amounts of glare to other road users and backdazzle to you, the driver, that results from these "retrofits".
It's tricky to judge headlamp beam performance without a lot of knowledge, a lot of training and a lot of special equipment, because subjective perceptions are very misleading. Having a lot of strong light in the foreground, that is on the road close to the car and out to the sides, is very comforting and reliably produces a strong impression of "good headlights". The problem is that not only is foreground lighting of decidedly secondary importance when travelling much above 30 mph, but having a very strong pool of light close to the car causes your pupils to close down, worsening your distance vision...all the while giving you this false sense of security. This is to say nothing of the massive amounts of glare to other road users and backdazzle to you, the driver, that results from these "retrofits".
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