Shoppin' for a Tuner-Chip
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#17
Originally Posted by buckshot047
all hail the almighty sct x cal 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whats wrong with the diablosport....your runnin the mouth lets see what you have to say! 3 trucks and 3 diablsopsorts with no problems!!!!!!
#18
what causes the head lift? had ,mine in for about 12,00 mile and no problmes I watch the boost and the egt's what is wrong with them and please dont tell me to do a search and look at the opinions...I know several of the 6.0 that had head issues without the tuners.....just wondering where the factual data is here......I poste this before and will post it agin...this site is all sct xcal2 and every other tuner is junk...I disagree with this alot....i dont understand how diablosport can sell so many of them and not have major issues with their product...and why do places like LIPD sell the diablosports....just curious......here we go!
#19
Originally Posted by buckshot047
what causes the head lift? had ,mine in for about 12,00 mile and no problmes I watch the boost and the egt's what is wrong with them and please dont tell me to do a search and look at the opinions...I know several of the 6.0 that had head issues without the tuners.....just wondering where the factual data is here......I poste this before and will post it agin...this site is all sct xcal2 and every other tuner is junk...I disagree with this alot....i dont understand how diablosport can sell so many of them and not have major issues with their product...and why do places like LIPD sell the diablosports....just curious......here we go!
The FACTUAL information is there if you want to do a search i am not going to do the search for you.
Problem with the Diablosport and All "Chips/Inline Fuel Modules" is they change the fuel timing and duration and the PCM is unaware of this. When you change the fuel timing and duration you increase the cylinder pressure. With high cylinder pressure you can lift the heads on a 6.0 with as little as 22PSI of boost. The other problem is All "Chips/Inline Fuel Modules" do not address the Transmission programming for the added Hp & Torque. The factory transmission shift strategy allows slipping to occur so that the transmission shifts smoothly in order to not upset the soccer moms and grocery getters. The added Hp & Torque coupled with the factory shifting strategy is death on the transmission do to excess slipping and heat build up.
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so I should be seeing high trans temps and overboost...when I tlked to LIPD about two months ago and ordered my guages they said they liked the SCT more because of the custom tunability.....did not have anything bad to say about the diablosport.....just curious I have had zero issues and like it alot...according to diablosport they take into account the shifting issues with it because there is a place in there to tune the trans.....I realize the sct is the best ever but I dont think the diablosprt is the worst one there is as you seem to think....not trying to start a whole lot here but....the sun does not rise and fall around the sct...I would like to try one but noone wants to give me one for free....and with the good luck Ive had with the diablosport I see no reason to run away screaming from it...I think it has alot more to do with how you drive it......
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Originally Posted by buckshot047
so I should be seeing high trans temps and overboost...when I tlked to LIPD about two months ago and ordered my guages they said they liked the SCT more because of the custom tunability.....did not have anything bad to say about the diablosport.....just curious I have had zero issues and like it alot...according to diablosport they take into account the shifting issues with it because there is a place in there to tune the trans.....I realize the sct is the best ever but I dont think the diablosprt is the worst one there is as you seem to think....not trying to start a whole lot here but....the sun does not rise and fall around the sct...I would like to try one but noone wants to give me one for free....and with the good luck Ive had with the diablosport I see no reason to run away screaming from it...I think it has alot more to do with how you drive it......
I do not know who you spoke to at LIPD, that person may have chosen to remain slient instead of saying anything bad about a competitors product. I can tell you if you speak with Matt (he is the tuning guru) he will tell you to stay away from All "chips/inline fuel modules" for use on the 6.0. BTW Matt is no longer associated with LIPD and is setting up his own shop.
The transmission tuning (if any exists at all) on the Diablosport and all "chips/inline fuel modules" is poorly concieved and executed. It does not prevent the transmission from coming apart do to the increased Hp & Torque.
And yes the "sun does rise and set" on the SCT XcalII with CUSTOM TUNES. This has been proven time and again by real world field testing by many owners of 6.0's and members of FTE. The key is the Custom Tuning of all the parameters of the PCM, FICM and TCM. None of the "chips/inline fuel modules" (ie Diablosport, Edge, Banks, DrP etc) properly address all these parameters.
No one is going to give you a free SCT why should they? If you cannot afford to sell your "Diablosport" and purchase an SCT, you cannot afford the engine & transmission repairs that will be required do to the problems caused by the Diablosport (or any "chip/inline fuel module). It is your truck and your wallet, run the Diablosport all you want. When it causes you problems with lifted heads, puking or failed Torqueshift (and it will) don't come whining back to us that we didn't warn you.
It amazes me that you refuse to do a search and read the hundreds of factual posts on this subject that have been field tested by many on the 6.0 over the last 4.5 years. The factual information is posted on FTE and available to you if you choose to read it.
Good luck with the Diablosport you are going to need it.
Last edited by blackhat620; 07-07-2007 at 01:56 PM.
#22
I'm obviously in the minority on Diablo...
Got one for my 03 6oh Ex on the first day it came available here at FTE...
Ran it on the 100hp setting until I traded for my 05 and nary a problem from the Diablo!
Then sold it after I got the 05 ...
I did get the Xcal2 for the 05 and still looking for tunes that I am happy with...
The idjut I got it from was found out to be stealing tunes from other dealers and not knowing what he was doing...
Guess I'll haveta fork out some $ to get a custom tune... but even with the basic tunes it's very good...
Got one for my 03 6oh Ex on the first day it came available here at FTE...
Ran it on the 100hp setting until I traded for my 05 and nary a problem from the Diablo!
Then sold it after I got the 05 ...
I did get the Xcal2 for the 05 and still looking for tunes that I am happy with...
The idjut I got it from was found out to be stealing tunes from other dealers and not knowing what he was doing...
Guess I'll haveta fork out some $ to get a custom tune... but even with the basic tunes it's very good...
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Everyone needs to realize that blackhat is the greatest mind on this site and accept it I know I will.......not really....just do not disagree with him! and powerstroked162...thanks for the info on the 7.3 had two of them and both had diablosport tunes....great luck with them....did it ever cross your mind that the problems were not all the fault of the tuner? Just curious
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Originally Posted by buckshot047
Powerstroked162...did it ever cross your mind that the problems were not all the fault of the tuner? Just curious
Cowboy Steve
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Originally Posted by buckshot047
Everyone needs to realize that blackhat is the greatest mind on this site and accept it I know I will.......not really....just do not disagree with him! and powerstroked162...thanks for the info on the 7.3 had two of them and both had diablosport tunes....great luck with them....did it ever cross your mind that the problems were not all the fault of the tuner? Just curious
Someone here please explain to me why this is so hard for everyone here to understand?
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Originally Posted by buckshot047
Everyone needs to realize that blackhat is the greatest mind on this site and accept it I know I will.......not really....just do not disagree with him!
#29
Originally Posted by darsey715
I agree. I stated my opinion against his and he claimed I was "personally attacking" him. all his posts sound like commercials. "welcome to fte good people and some other generic crap..."
Cowboy Steve
#30
Originally Posted by powerstroked162
Well I can say that Blackhat is an extreamlly educated man when it comes to the diesel technology and information. I can gurantee he wouldn't state you were personally attacking him if you weren't. Irregardless, if you "weren't" attacking him before then you surely are now by callin him generic crap. You dont like him cause he probably made you look stupid(not that you needed any help doing that, you do a fine job of that yourself ) when you challenged his opinion and you had no proof to back yours up. If you dont like him then leave the forum, I gurantee he'll be here for many year to come. Oh and by the way, you might wanna re-read your FTE guidelines and re-evaluate your decision on callin us guru's "generic crap", it wont win ya any friends around here, not to mention you keep that garbage up and you probably wont be around much longer. Your choice, choose wisely!
Cowboy Steve
Cowboy Steve