You both are very intelligent………..way to smart to keep this going.
Don't for one minute think that any of us cannot have a bad day, along one at work, or a tuff one at home...sometimes we just take things wrong....we are after all human....so less just move on...

 

I pulled the battery over night and it was the same after the relearn today. My new down pipe was hitting my firewall so i pulled it out and noticed a vacuum line was out right next to the turbo must have pulled it out Monday during install. A/C should now be ok. Trans is my next issue.... time for the dealer hope its just a solenoid or less.

 

Firstly, I can see where someone would misread the intent of your title very easily... so let's all chill and think about what has been posted recently to put some of us in a defensive (rather than the normal very helpful ) posture...

REALLY sounds like most of these issues are NOT the fault of the Predator...

and you did hint to that fact in one of your post....

I am the "stopping point for the buck" in our region (third level support for all our applications even the ones I didn't participate in ) and MANY times it's the "Oh, by the way" ... that solves the issue when you ask the right question...
When did it work correctly last ?
What changed right before it stopped working correctly ?
Typically that's the culprit - are at least the first place I look

I'm all "allergied" up this morning, so I probably won't be much help...
but sounds like a visit to the doctor is in order for your truck

have a good day

 

Slow down and read your own thread.

Title: HELP Predator Problems.

Is one to understand something other than you need help with a Predator problem?

First you say "That why i hate email and posts and all of this impersonal crap. Thing people type can be taken the wrong way,,,," then you proceed to launch a personal attack on me instead of asking what I meant or send a personal message. I never personnally attacked you.

I don't know how else to interpret "silly crap". It is still a 12 volt system. Disconnecting the battery on the Ford's 80's vintage EEC-IV would reboot the system and result in clearing codes and have it relearn idle, mixture, etc. So with your experience, you should have been exposed to the concept.

Knowing what I know about the system, I know of no vendor that recommends stacking regardless of the order.

Perhaps you could be clearer in your posts so others won't misunderstand what message you are trying to deliver.

I made no derogatory remarks toward you or any masked vulgarity. You post that people can be taken the wrong way and that is what you did with me. No attitude and emotion just stating the facts as you posted them.

 

I can see why everyone got bent out of shape. They see the thread title "HELP Predator Problems" so they join in to help, just like I did.

Then they get a sense of frustration with the truck, the predator and the PCM design, and yes, even the answers they are providing.

What we all are trying to say (without being personal about it) is that the problem is not with the Predator, the truck, the PCM design but what you are trying to do. You need to understand that you are the pioneer on this. I hope you can make it work without trashing your engine.
I will make one suggestion that you look at the Methanol/Water injection thread and use that system to control the EGT problems. If you want less timing, try the lowest setting on the Predator then stack the chip on a lower setting. Somewhere you should be able to find a combination that will work.

 

Another thing...Three of us have on this thread been running the predator for 20,000 miles each. None of us have lost a drop of water. If you are loosing water with the predator, fix your truck first before proceeding further.

 

So it’s me and my title, sorry.

But you all are missing the point. I AM NOT TRYING TO STACK. I did this when I FIRST bought my predator and this was about three months ago. Tried it the first week and said forget it. I do how ever switch back and forth trying to find which one I like the most. Edge for power Predator for shifting. Both have good and bad qualities. I did load the factory tune and have been running that with out speed limiter the only thing stacked if you even what to call it that.

This is exactly how this happen. I talked to BOB and he sent me the R33c flash for the predator. Because I wanted the improved shifting alone, no HP benefits.
So I load the original back up at this point it failed and said original back up not installed. Called Predator and they forced it, ok back to normal.
Now I hook it up to my pc and up date it with the R33c sent to me via BOB. Had to load it twice to take it. The first time it said something to the extent of incomplete or corrupt on the predator. Finally, figuring that it just may have lost power briefly and messed up the load I repeated it. It worked fine.
Excited to have my factory tune with improved shifting I ran out to the truck and it still didn’t have that option. So I loaded the factory remove speed limiter.

This is when the problems started.

The A/C was my fault i had knocked off a vacuum hose while installing my Down pipe. OOPS!
But the problem with the Trans still is alive and well. Not as bad but bad. It takes a while to go into gear especially in reverse sometimes even going in and out of gear. When floored it revs in third and I have to let off for it to grab the gear.
Turbo, when driving at any steady speed I can hear the pitch go up and down like a bad idle on a gasser. Also goes dead, normally hear the whistle all the time but sometimes it just stops the diesel doesn’t even sound like a diesel it goes quiet and then just like on a normal start up the turbo kicks in.

P.S. SBV45 Like I said I had a bad night I was under my truck till 10pm trying to adjust, remove, adjust, and reinstall my Down pipe and was very frustrated. I did how ever feel that your post was some what negative towards my post. But now i know I was wrong with my titling. SORRY

 

less get back on track.........Believe me there was a full moon somewhere on this planet yesterday...some of today also…and it was in full bloom

 

Works for me. Thanks for everyone taking a deep breath and rethinking. Tim, you are a good moderator.

How is that for a virtual group hug?

 

I HATE hairy back hugs !!!!!!

but on to less disgusting subjects


REALLY sounds like your PCM and tranny loads are corrupted...
VERY important thing is to power off ALL equipment radio, lights, anything electrical, and warm up the truck to limit the hard pull on the glow plugs before you start to program....
even using power windows or opening and closing doors is creating a chang ein electrical load which is probably an oops to the pcms...

Remember -
Ford techs have trouble loading the programs because of low power some times....

You may even have a corrupted stock program and the predator is saving a corrupted program !!! and therefore reloading a corrupted program...

Hate to suggest it, but you might return it to stock and go to Ford with a request to reflash so you have a good base to start with....

There is NO telling what's going on if just ONE line of code is corrupted....

And obviously Ford doesn't hear about the edge and predator and etc...

Just tell them your engine has been surging.... that should be enough to get them to flash it...

Good luck ! These things re REALLY fun when right....

 

Yea I think this week end it will go in and see the DR. I did stop and talk to one of the local guys and he tried to read the PCM and nothing. He couldnt even pull up a code. He said there is something very wrong. I will try to up date the predator to the newest DL and try to reset it again to see if it helps any. Couldnt hurt much.

The corrupted file or a miss load was my first guess and that is why i titled this predator help. We will see, as soon as its all fixed edge back on water kit ordered and rubber comming off the tires!

 

Due to what JD suggested, I always hook up a battery charger to the primary battery when I restore original or reload the Predator program. By the time I get done with the load/reload, the charger is pushing 6 amps. The glow plugs really put a load on those batteries with all the turning of the key on and off.

 

Never had a problem with loading or unloading mine...

never had to use a charger either (good thing cuz I don't got one )

but I do take the precautions i mentioned with limiting the electrical load and not CHANGING the electrical load during any operation...

 

What do you guys make of these.

P0266 cylinder2 control Mod
P0603 Power trans Keep Alive Mod
P2263 Turbo boost system

Werent there last night. And its going in tomorrow!

 

FastF350,
I noticed in and earlier post that you said that your turbo seemed to rev up and down while you were at a steady speed and sometimes the engine would get real quiet like a gas engine and then get loud like a diesel again. My dad has a 2003 KingRanch F-350 dually with the Edge-Juice module, 3 pod pillar(which has the EGT,boost,and tranny temp.), 4 inch exhaust from turbo back and a reusable filter like a K&N. He had all of this installed about 6 months ago and he could burn them tires with no problem. He had thought the truck was powerful before the upgrade and had no idea that it had that much more potential. He started noticing this problem with the engine fluctuations about 1 month ago and also noticed that he doesn't have the power he once had. It is almost like he has the power mode set in the first position. Did you ever figure out what was causing the problem with yours?

Matt,
Jacksonville, FL

P.S. I posted some pics of his truck in my gallary if anybody wants to see how it looks.