I don't think there's going to be any major issues with the Duramax because of the aluminum heads. I think it's a good engine. The only thing wrong with it it that it's in a Chevrolet.

 

There have already been some major problems with the aluminum heads. I've heard of several people who had problems. Most of them were the guys who were working them hard, but still.

 

Well then, I stand corrected. Back to the drawing board, Chevy!

 

WOW.....That did'int take much. 3 lines from bigsnag, and suddenly the Duramax needs to be replaced, and GM has to hit the drawing boards all over again.....LOL.

Yet no matter all the documentation, and personal experiences from users regarding problems with the 6.0 - your still a firm believer....I love the open mind with which you approach this issue

 

I'm with you, sinister73. Until I see a few documented problems with the aluminum heads on a Dmax, I see nothing wrong with them.

 

While I am in no way Doubting what you say, I spent about 20 minutes On the net doing searches on google for Duramax head problems.. Most everything I saw was " I hear Rumors".
I did Find a guy that had 300,000 miles on his duramax and was dealing with a failed head gasket.
Then I type in POWERSTROKE 6.0 PROBLEMS.. and its like the floodgates opened.

Ron

00 Excursion Limited 4x4 V-10

 

Sinister73,

Man o man, do I ever love reading your posts. Just great entertainment at its best. I almost feel I should be paying for a ticket when I read them....
Anyways what do you have against the 6.0L?? You know you criticize everyone who has something against the Duramax or the 600 Cummins, yet you get your feathers ruffed when somebody supports the 6.0L. Makes me wonder why your even on this board to start with, since it is "FORD Truck Enthusiasts" board. Don't be surprised when you see guys flaunt and talk about how great their FORD truck is on here, because thats what the website is intended for. If you want to talk dirty about Ford engines and trucks, go to a Chevy or Dodge board....I'm sure you could find some people there that think the same as you. And yes I do realize that this is a Ford vs. the Competition segment of the board...but common, somebody like you with such opinions on things, takes the "vs." out of title. Its seems you think its "Ford sucks, Chevy and Dodge are king." In the diesel department anyways. Personally I think all latest Diesels are great engines.
You state vauable facts, and have very informative information, but your hatred towards the Ford Motor Company trucks has gotten a bit wild, and if you ask me its started to form a biased opinion... Now you can do your big "LOL, somebodys got their panties in a knot" post after you read this but it sure as heck ain't gonna change my opininon...

 

The point about the engines reputation is valid, though. I'm sure GM is still suffereing from some of their past diesel efforts, for example, although they are selling every dmax they can make, apparently. But this is an issue that hits Ford, too. The 6.0PSD has been a, to be nice, very unreliable motor. It's my first experience with a Ford diesel and it's been a horrible one thus far. What do you think I'm telling folks about the 6.0 vs my stone reliable 01 dmax?

Word is getting out. When I talk to almost anyone I consider a gear head and tell them I have the 6.0, they start with the "how bad has it been?" questions.

Isuzu has a 15.7L 6 cyl diesel that produces 435hp at 1800rpm and 1374lb ft at 1500rpm. They've produced some 16 million diesel motors. Learn more at their website. Seems like some pretty big motors to me. Bigger than anything I could find on the International/Navstar website.

 

Check this out for duramax problems. Everyone wants to jump on Ford for their 6.0 injector problems, seems like Chevy has their own injector problems. There is also one of these threads that says there are at least 10 confirmed problems with head gaskets. I'll admit that is not too many considering how many of those engines are out there, but I bet it is more than Ford or Dodge have. Keep in mind the site below is a bunch of Chevy homers and they are still posting a ton of problems.

http://dieselplace.com/forum/search....I=TC&FM=1&OB=1

 

Please do the same search on this forum for 6.0 Problems..
SInce the search engine said that the word PROBLEM didnt exist in any thread on the 6.0 Forum, I searched Manually.. I also Searched for Buy backs, and lemon laws in the same forum..Its very eye opening.

Ron

 

If they can only get 435 hp and 1374 lb ft out of 15.7L they better go back to the drawing board. These days a 14L engine makes 600 hp and 2150 lb ft.

 

Point being that they do indeed produce large diesels.

 

I never tried to imply that the 6.0 has had problems. I am only disputing the fact that the Duramax is flawless.

 

10 confirmed cases. Man, I bet ford would love to see that few failures on the 6.0. The dealer that's replacing my turbo today said it was the 3rd one they've done in 1.5 months. And they're not a very large dealership.

There is apparently some problem with not enough filtration of the fuel system in the early dmax's and that may show up as injector problems as time goes on for more and more folks, though. That'd be an unfortunate blemish on an otherwise very enviable early reliability rate. Time will tell. It's nice that GM, like Ford, has 100k warranty on the dmax.

 

I agree.. The Duramax isnt flawless...

I think a simple way for ME to end this conversation is by saying something I have said Many times... Whether you Like Dodge or GM, the Fact is they have an Incredible diesel motor they offer.
And the Same thing can be said that whether you like ford or not, Ford also offers an Incredible Motor.
Yes, the 6.0 is definitley more problematic at this point, BUT they will get it ironed out as they always do. My only fear would be that Ford tries to get on board with Gm and Dodge Torque numbers without first making the current offering more reliable.

Any motor from ANY manufacturer can fail at ANY time.. The Vehicle that we drive around in everyday simply has the odds in its favor that it will be reliable do to the sheer number of vehicles produced and % failure rates.

Ron