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Old 06-19-2024, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rufushusky
Its been all over the interwebs....

https://fordauthority.com/2024/06/ai...nt%2C%20either.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a6...cks-emissions/

Originated with a social media post, I think someone posted a Saudi super duty that also had no US emissions equipment on it a while back. The export models are out there, wonder if you could grey market them in a few years....

Do they run diesel or JP-8 through these trucks? Just curious.....
If they are being operated out of an American base they are running JP-8. The military doesn't supply diesel anywhere abroad I've ever been. We used to have a platoon that ran a fuel storage site and they ran 350gpm pumps 12 hours/day 365 days/year just to circulate the 1-2 million gallons of JP-8 and 200k gallons of Mogas. The filters had to be changed weekly because of algae buildup. They also did Aqua-glo testing for water content multiple times per day and weren't allowed to dispense any unless it was below a certain percentage.

Stateside we had 3/4 ton and 1 ton plow trucks and range trucks and not 1 diesel. Every truck Ford, GM or Ram was a gas truck. There was no DEF at any military fuel points. If it was that heavy it got hauled by a 5-ton or bigger not a 1-ton diesel.
 
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Too bad we can't get a bootleg copy of the tune.
plenty of guys offer a stock power tune.
 
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High sulfur fuel is a thing outside the US, it will put a stop to your emissions regulated engine in a hurry. Cat engines (and others) used in heavy equipment are designed to lesser regulations for our military.
 
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Originally Posted by OBS460
If they are being operated out of an American base they are running JP-8. The military doesn't supply diesel anywhere abroad I've ever been. We used to have a platoon that ran a fuel storage site and they ran 350gpm pumps 12 hours/day 365 days/year just to circulate the 1-2 million gallons of JP-8 and 200k gallons of Mogas. The filters had to be changed weekly because of algae buildup. They also did Aqua-glo testing for water content multiple times per day and weren't allowed to dispense any unless it was below a certain percentage.

Stateside we had 3/4 ton and 1 ton plow trucks and range trucks and not 1 diesel. Every truck Ford, GM or Ram was a gas truck. There was no DEF at any military fuel points. If it was that heavy it got hauled by a 5-ton or bigger not a 1-ton diesel.
Interesting context, thank you.

Some more details out there:

https://fordauthority.com/2024/06/fo...n-on-jet-fuel/

See if you can check that box on your next order


 
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
DEF does not make the trucks less reliable.
Reason for not having the military trucks have it is because many less developed countries do not have the same emission standards that the US and EU have, so they do not have DEF in those places.
All you have to do if you don't like the emissions requirements is get an old truck.
Try telling that to my father who is currently waiting on a $1,200 DEF pump for his truck that is his sole vehicle for earning a living.
 
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Try telling that to my father who is currently waiting on a $1,200 DEF pump for his truck that is his sole vehicle for earning a living.
DEF problem is one of those things where if it hasn't happened to you yet, everything is fine. But when it happens, it makes your blood boil with how many failure points there are in the aftertreatment system that can limp and break it.

I know Ram for sure has a lot of issues with their DEF system, not sure about Duramax set ups.
 
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My '87 F350 (gas engine) was USN surplus and had no catalytic converter. Since the government doesn't know to which countries these vehicles will be deployed, they must allow for various fuels. In 1987, many countries still did not have unleaded gasoline. Both fuel fillers on mine were the old large diameter size ... ran leaded fuel whenever I could find it.
 
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My '87 F350 (gas engine) was USN surplus and had no catalytic converter. Since the government doesn't know to which countries these vehicles will be deployed, they must allow for various fuels. In 1987, many countries still did not have unleaded gasoline. Both fuel fillers on mine were the old large diameter size ... ran leaded fuel whenever I could find it.
The 350 that Self Identified as an 172.
 
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How many of you vote? Serious question.


Also seriously that truck will never be privately registered in the US and needs to be reliable and run on high sulfur fuel.
 
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How many of you vote? Serious question.


Also seriously that truck will never be privately registered in the US and needs to be reliable and run on high sulfur fuel.
dont remember when the EPA made laws that we voted on tho or the ATF for that matter.
 
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Old 06-20-2024, 06:41 PM
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But the politicians in charge, you can vote for them.

Or you can skip and let the idiots in that end up taking bribes once they trick everyone.
 
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Old 06-20-2024, 07:16 PM
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But the politicians in charge, you can vote for them.

Or you can skip and let the idiots in that end up taking bribes once they trick everyone.
been voting. Doesnt matter though when my state goes from red to blue in one cycle due to california invading. (i am one of them rare millennials who actually vote)
 
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I just try to stay involved and get everyone to vote and suggest the same
 
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Anyone have the factory part numbers for the factory block off plates? Asking for a friend.
 
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I am in the process of buying some GCC only car parts from a Lexus dealer in Dubai, using a US liaison because I don’t have a contact there.

But yeah long story short you can buy car parts in those markets.
 
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