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Old 01-20-2024 | 10:08 PM
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I stand corrected
5.65mm per wheel face
Tucked the Outter wheel in 11.3mm (7/16”)

Good info to have.

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Old 01-21-2024 | 09:50 AM
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I find the caps almost impossible to get off the rears. Wouldn't mind them being a little looser.
After literally wanting to Sawzall them off, I discovered a video with a guy who uses a luggage weight with a t-handle. Works amazing. You zip tie the handle and chord for extra strength and the clip slides right into the hole. I tried all the other tricks and this was the best solution.

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Old 01-21-2024 | 12:45 PM
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Buy steer tires and be done. People make this issue so much more complicated than it needs to be. I was so happy with my Michelin XZE's I put them on the rear also. No vibration, wondering, just smooth cruising. Don't overthink it or listen to the propaganda from 350 guys.
So true. Idk why everybody thinks they need big GAWDY mudders when most ppl never use or need them.
I hate noisy, rough riding cleated tires
 
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Old 01-21-2024 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BROWN DOG KTM
So true. Idk why everybody thinks they need big GAWDY mudders when most ppl never use or need them.
I hate noisy, rough riding cleated tires
Steer tires absolutely suck in the mud and snow. Probably great for the pavement princesses out there, but for those of use who actually take our truck off of paved roads, the steer tires really suck. And in heavy rain with standing water, there is no escape route for the water to get out, leads to more hydroplaning.
 
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Old 01-21-2024 | 01:02 PM
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Wasted an hour this afternoon trying to figure out why my tpms would not program….didnt realize/didn’t read that they changed to 415mhz for 2023. Annoyed because my sensors were not the universal so I need to disassemble. Save that for another day.
TPMS activated on 2023 F-450 - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums (ford-trucks.com)
 
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Old 01-21-2024 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wabba
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Originally Posted by bradeverett03
I just got my 20" JK classics mounted last night,
Anyone else notice that Wabba's wheels are marked 4500 lbs, but Brad's are marked 5000 lbs?? Just curious, why the difference?
 
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Old 01-21-2024 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny F2 fiddy
Anyone else notice that Wabba's wheels are marked 4500 lbs, but Brad's are marked 5000 lbs?? Just curious, why the difference?
That I don’t know, but my 22” were 5k as well.


 
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Old 01-22-2024 | 12:36 PM
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So in summary.....the JK wheels are about 1" thick at the hub, and shaving them down gets them to just a hair under 3/4". I measured the available hub space on my axle, and it is only 3/4" wide. So shaving these down still doesn't make hub available for a hub-centric wheel, so still need to use the sleeved nuts, and the outer rim is only brought inward less than 1/2".

When I order, I won't bother getting them faced down. The unknown reduction in strength is a negative, as is the need to still have sleeved nuts. Moving the outer lip of rim inward 1/2" isn't enough of a Positive to override the negative.

I really wish there was a steel inner in 20" available, like Ford uses on the 19.5....thinks would be so much simpler.

DDC says all their wheels are hub-centric....anyone ever have the opportunity to measure how thick the wheel is at the hub on one of those?

Not sure if FUEL wheels are hub or lug centric.
 
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Old 01-22-2024 | 01:32 PM
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If you are going to be shaving down the face of the wheel, one option would be to leave a hub-centric lip on the face of the inner wheel. Then you bore a step into the outer wheel that engages with this step on the inner. This would be very similar to how hub-centric spacers are made. In other words, the inner wheel would be hub-centric to the axle as factory but the outer wheel would be hub-centric to the inner wheel. This was not my idea but something I saw someone do with some semi-wheels a while back. I wish I had pictures to share.

On the other hand, I'm not too concerned with the sleeved nuts. I think its a good way to lock the wheels together. In fact, I just ordered a set of 20s from JK myself and didn't mention any of this to them. Just wanted to share another idea on the topic.
 
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Old 02-12-2024 | 09:35 AM
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My truck is just a little F350, not a big 450 like this thread is all about but I'm posting because this thread did help me decide on what I got. I went with the JK Motorsports 20" Classics and went with the big ten lug (semi truck) center caps. The best part is that they are a direct bolt-on with no adapters and they tuck in very nicely. My truck is a chassis cab which means the rear end is 3.8" narrower overall than one with a pick-up bed so keep that in mind. Tires are 275/65/20 Cooper Rugged Trek. The bed is a Bradford Built step side.




 
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Old 02-12-2024 | 09:42 AM
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Did u ever find 20" wheels for the F-450?
 
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Old 02-12-2024 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Hooton
Did u ever find 20" wheels for the F-450?
Read this thread from the beginning, lots of info.
TLDR for you; Lots of options for aftermarket wheels in 20/22" (DDC, Fuel etc) - If you want something less flashy or similar to stock but in a 20, look up JK motorsports.
 
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Old 02-19-2024 | 04:56 PM
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I'm seriously considering the JK wheels for my 22 F450 as finding locatuons to get the 19 5 tires, cost of them and a place to install isnt so easy for how i travel. . My head is however spinning on what tires to use. I travel the country pulling a 45ft 20k toy hauler fifth wheel so my driving is mainly highway with a few campgrounds that are all gravel but most paved. Jk recommended 265/60/R20 tires to stay as close to stock height as possible as my camper already runs at 13 ft 6 in with hitch amd king pin at lowest locations. JK recommended a few but all were AT tires. I fell if I did AT the Coopers would be best.

Any thoughts on what tires you all would use for this?
 
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Old 02-19-2024 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by VortecZ
My truck is just a little F350, not a big 450 like this thread is all about but I'm posting because this thread did help me decide on what I got. I went with the JK Motorsports 20" Classics and went with the big ten lug (semi truck) center caps. The best part is that they are a direct bolt-on with no adapters and they tuck in very nicely. My truck is a chassis cab which means the rear end is 3.8" narrower overall than one with a pick-up bed so keep that in mind. Tires are 275/65/20 Cooper Rugged Trek. The bed is a Bradford Built step side.
Those wheels look great! Wish they'd tuck under a 450 like that! We'd all be happy!!
 
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Old 02-19-2024 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by compgen25
I'm seriously considering the JK wheels for my 22 F450 as finding locatuons to get the 19 5 tires, cost of them and a place to install isnt so easy for how i travel. . My head is however spinning on what tires to use. I travel the country pulling a 45ft 20k toy hauler fifth wheel so my driving is mainly highway with a few campgrounds that are all gravel but most paved. Jk recommended 265/60/R20 tires to stay as close to stock height as possible as my camper already runs at 13 ft 6 in with hitch amd king pin at lowest locations. JK recommended a few but all were AT tires. I fell if I did AT the Coopers would be best.

Any thoughts on what tires you all would use for this?
One of the many reasons I want to switch is to more easily run a taller tire, which in effect would be like running a better rear gear ration than the 4.30, which is complete overkill pulling my 20k toyhauler!!
 


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