New to diesel, concerns and thoughts on a warranty?
#1
New to diesel, concerns and thoughts on a warranty?
I am about to buy a 15 F350 Platinum with 6.7. This will be my first venture into the world of diesels after owning a few F150's. We are able to do more camping these days, I can work remotely and my wife is a school teacher, so we want to pack up a larger camper and take family for long summer trips. The truck I am looking at has 72,000 miles and I am purchasing from a reputable large dealership. Vehicle CARFAX shows it was originally purchased from same dealer and serviced there.
My question is this:
Because of the mileage, they are offering me extended service plan (4 year/50,000 miles) for $4700. Is it worth it? Should I be concerned with spending $40K on a truck with 72k miles? I know for the price/mileage/options, truck is a steal.
I generally work on my own vehicles, but know nothing about diesels. Reading too much on internet can scare you off a bit when it comes to thinking you can do anything to these trucks. I look at price and say I would rather put the $80 a month into my own savings/kids college fund and know i have repair money if needed and extra investment money if not.
Appreciate any thoughts you can share.
Thanks!
My question is this:
Because of the mileage, they are offering me extended service plan (4 year/50,000 miles) for $4700. Is it worth it? Should I be concerned with spending $40K on a truck with 72k miles? I know for the price/mileage/options, truck is a steal.
I generally work on my own vehicles, but know nothing about diesels. Reading too much on internet can scare you off a bit when it comes to thinking you can do anything to these trucks. I look at price and say I would rather put the $80 a month into my own savings/kids college fund and know i have repair money if needed and extra investment money if not.
Appreciate any thoughts you can share.
Thanks!
#2
Welp I can help answer your questions. I work at a Ford dealership and training to be a diesel tech. The new 6.7 is a awesome motor with loads of power but they can be very expensive to fix so yes I’d definitely recommend the warranty. And yes this is one truck you really should not try to work on at home due to many odd dos and don’t On this motor. Like if you open the high pressure fuel side you have to replace any hard lines you take off because the fuel pressure is 20,000 psi. But you can do the maintenance on the truck like the fuel filters are super easy and oil changes. Just make sure you factory stuff and do what the book says. And $40k isn’t bad for a $75k truck. There awesome trucks but they are expensive to buy and maintain
#3
who owned the truck before? some kid who pushed it hard? or some older gent who wanted a nicer ride?
at 72K miles it is a teenager so to speak.
if it was serviced at the dealership, what can they tell you about the truck??
lastly, anything can happen to any vehicle. change the oil, change the filters, check the levels, and life should be good. the longer the pull, the heaver the load, just means check more often.
learn to listen to you motor, it will talk to you and tell you when it is stressing some. Diesels can stress a lot, just give them a chance to cool off after the workout.
as for the money, someone else will have a better idea.
Fert
at 72K miles it is a teenager so to speak.
if it was serviced at the dealership, what can they tell you about the truck??
lastly, anything can happen to any vehicle. change the oil, change the filters, check the levels, and life should be good. the longer the pull, the heaver the load, just means check more often.
learn to listen to you motor, it will talk to you and tell you when it is stressing some. Diesels can stress a lot, just give them a chance to cool off after the workout.
as for the money, someone else will have a better idea.
Fert
#4
I think you can beat the price quoted by the dealer. Check Flood ESP and Zeigler ESP. I bought mine from Zeigler since they would do 12 months 0% financing for about $20 more than Flood.
https://www.floodfordesp.com/
Ford Protect ESP PremiumCARE
https://www.floodfordesp.com/
Ford Protect ESP PremiumCARE
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Thanks guys for the input. I do not think the Ford ESP is an option because of the mileage. As I said in original post, reading too much online in forums can be scary, and read a post that summed it up nicely. Most people come to forums when they have an issue, so does not give you a good representation of owners with no problems.
My biggest thing with aftermarket warranty is I have also read horror stories. Dutter 2, that is my exact thoiught process, repairs are going to be costly and when you have a payment on a $40,000 vehicle you do not necessarily want to shell out thousands on top for repairs. But I also will be really mad if I buy warranty and it does not cover something so I have to pay for warranty and pay for repairs. Things like wheel bearings, brakes, etc. are all things I can do myself, my fear is engine, turbo, fuel system, def system, etc.
Good news is I know that no matter what I decide, I will probably be wrong, lol.
My biggest thing with aftermarket warranty is I have also read horror stories. Dutter 2, that is my exact thoiught process, repairs are going to be costly and when you have a payment on a $40,000 vehicle you do not necessarily want to shell out thousands on top for repairs. But I also will be really mad if I buy warranty and it does not cover something so I have to pay for warranty and pay for repairs. Things like wheel bearings, brakes, etc. are all things I can do myself, my fear is engine, turbo, fuel system, def system, etc.
Good news is I know that no matter what I decide, I will probably be wrong, lol.
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One other point, I am looking to keep truck stock. Will be daily driver, though I do not drive a ton. Work from home, truck will take occasional trips to airport and running kids to practices, sports, etc. Most times will be 20-30 mile round trip and know that will have to be understanding of regen process if not taking longer trips. Once summer comes, will probably do 10000 miles + with camper, not sure what that will be yet as we are upgrading but will probably be 12-14k pound fifth wheel.
#9
I would *not* consider a non-Ford extended warranty. Put the $4700 in your bank account and use that for issues that pop up. 2015 and up are pretty trouble free as compared to the earlier 6.7L models.
Do the routine maintenance yourself, especially oil changes, and fuel filters. dont let someone else refuel your truck, and dont be distracted when refilling the DEF.
Do the routine maintenance yourself, especially oil changes, and fuel filters. dont let someone else refuel your truck, and dont be distracted when refilling the DEF.
#10
This is just me but you were asking for opinions. If I were to spend $40,000 on a truck, I would want the new truck experience. For this amount you can own a F250/F350 with the 6.2L and zero miles on the clock. In the low 50s you can have the new truck experience with a 6.7L.
I don't own vehicles with lots of miles on them. My current truck has 50,000 on the clock and that's the most miles that I've seen on my vehicle in 15 years. I love the truck and I hope to keep this one around though for a few more years and trade it as she gets closer to 125,000 or 8 years as my ESP starts to run out. These are great trucks.
Someone here recently commented that you can own a base 2018 F450 with the 6.7L new at around $52,000 (msrp). +$3,000 for 4 wheel drive. How much are the fancy options worth?
Bruce...
I don't own vehicles with lots of miles on them. My current truck has 50,000 on the clock and that's the most miles that I've seen on my vehicle in 15 years. I love the truck and I hope to keep this one around though for a few more years and trade it as she gets closer to 125,000 or 8 years as my ESP starts to run out. These are great trucks.
Someone here recently commented that you can own a base 2018 F450 with the 6.7L new at around $52,000 (msrp). +$3,000 for 4 wheel drive. How much are the fancy options worth?
Bruce...
#11
I've owned a 2000, 2003, 2006, 2011, 2015 and now a 2017 Ford Superduties. All with diesel.
I've never bought the extended warranty. Most of the trucks I have sold at 100,000 miles. But my 2011 I kept to 145,000 miles.
If I had bought the extended warranties, I would have had very minor claims. So I'm pretty sure I have come out way ahead by not buying the warranties.
But there is always that small chance. If you are that small percentage that has a major failure. Yes it's expensive. But if I saved $3000 each on the past six trucks, I'd have $18,000 in a nest egg to cover failure/repairs.
I put 30,000 miles a year on a truck, So even with extended warranties, I'm out of warranty because of mileage, not years before the trucks really start to break down.
Typically in the 70,000 to 100,000 mile range, I expect to replace Brakes, Batteries, hubs-bearings, shocks. So consider if your new warranty will cover those type of repairs. and weigh that against the cost.
Also you need to consider what you would do if you had a failure. In my case, I've had 6 trucks over 20 years that I've saved my nest egg. So I could pay for a major failure. If you can't afford to fix a truck, maybe the warranty is a Good deal for you until you save some money.
I just sold my 2015 at 88,000 miles and it ran great and I would not worry about major problems at the mileage you are considering.
I've never bought the extended warranty. Most of the trucks I have sold at 100,000 miles. But my 2011 I kept to 145,000 miles.
If I had bought the extended warranties, I would have had very minor claims. So I'm pretty sure I have come out way ahead by not buying the warranties.
But there is always that small chance. If you are that small percentage that has a major failure. Yes it's expensive. But if I saved $3000 each on the past six trucks, I'd have $18,000 in a nest egg to cover failure/repairs.
I put 30,000 miles a year on a truck, So even with extended warranties, I'm out of warranty because of mileage, not years before the trucks really start to break down.
Typically in the 70,000 to 100,000 mile range, I expect to replace Brakes, Batteries, hubs-bearings, shocks. So consider if your new warranty will cover those type of repairs. and weigh that against the cost.
Also you need to consider what you would do if you had a failure. In my case, I've had 6 trucks over 20 years that I've saved my nest egg. So I could pay for a major failure. If you can't afford to fix a truck, maybe the warranty is a Good deal for you until you save some money.
I just sold my 2015 at 88,000 miles and it ran great and I would not worry about major problems at the mileage you are considering.
#12
Keep an open mind in regards to keeping it stock. I don’t hod rod my vehicles, and drive conservatively, but I deleted my emmisions equipment upon expiration of my bumper to bumper warranty. Most issues that guys deal with on the forum seem to be emmisions related. A conservative tow tune will get you 3-4 mpg across the board, no black smoke, and peace of mind.
My opinion would be put the extended warranty money in the bank for when you have a problem, then delete.
My opinion would be put the extended warranty money in the bank for when you have a problem, then delete.
#13
I am not afraid to admit my ignorance on delete and have not yet done enough research on it. However, ask a quick question. In NY where we are required to go through emissions as part of inspections. Deleting technically makes it illegal, correct?
Also, on the warranty, you guys have made me feel better. I think I will opt out, put $100 per month extra in my savings and if something happens use it. If not, will know my kids have more money in their college funds. Thanks again to everyone for your input.
Also, on the warranty, you guys have made me feel better. I think I will opt out, put $100 per month extra in my savings and if something happens use it. If not, will know my kids have more money in their college funds. Thanks again to everyone for your input.
#14
Deleting is illegal in all 50 states. Some states test, some do not which I think is what you are asking. Not arguing the right/wrong of it, just stating fact. Kinda like when catalytic converters were first put on gas engines back in the late 70's, and my dad put a "delete pipe" on back then.
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