F100'site and 93 to 96 Jaguar IFS & IRS
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F100'site and 93 to 96 Jaguar IFS & IRS
I've been trying to get some information about the Jaguar suspension setup in the 70's F100. I see people using the older xj6 stuff. I can't seem to find anyone talking about the XJS up to 1996 or 97? These are supposed to bolt right into the older xj6's. So they will go right into one of our 1970's F100's.
anyone out there with information. Or pictures of this install??
anyone out there with information. Or pictures of this install??
Last edited by Ltsgarage; 04-24-2017 at 02:09 PM. Reason: Spelling
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Jag xjs
[QUOTE=drptop70ss;17130211]1988 up jag xj40 platform IFS is very different than the older versions and is not as easy an install, IRS I have no idea but someone here will.[/QUOTE
. Drptop...
. That's why I said 93 thru about 98 XJS. The xj40 is way to much work. I believe the xj40 has struts? Not really sure.
. But , the xjs thru 98 is the exact same setup as the old style xj6. The only difference is that the xjs has outboard disc brakes, sealed 1 pieces bearings. Better seals. Slotted disc Rotors. There's more I just can't think of it right now.
. Some people are putting the xjs cradle and everything into the old xj6. They like the cars. Just not the old suspension. So if they are upgrading. We should start with the better xjs. It cost more. But, You don't have to rebuild it and you end up with better brakes and handling. It's just a given....
. Anyone??
. Drptop...
. That's why I said 93 thru about 98 XJS. The xj40 is way to much work. I believe the xj40 has struts? Not really sure.
. But , the xjs thru 98 is the exact same setup as the old style xj6. The only difference is that the xjs has outboard disc brakes, sealed 1 pieces bearings. Better seals. Slotted disc Rotors. There's more I just can't think of it right now.
. Some people are putting the xjs cradle and everything into the old xj6. They like the cars. Just not the old suspension. So if they are upgrading. We should start with the better xjs. It cost more. But, You don't have to rebuild it and you end up with better brakes and handling. It's just a given....
. Anyone??
#6
The c4 are very wide ( 84-88 1" narrower ) making rim choice limited as you need to use corvette backspacing but other than that fit quite nicely .
#7
As far as I know the XJS front suspension is not an upgrade from the older XJ6, only differences I know of are stiffer springs for the heavier engine and a different design steering rack that started around 1992. I have one of the newer racks on the shelf that had been put into a 1986 XJ6.
I would rebuild the IFS regardless of what it came from, the parts are cheap and upgrades like polyurethane steering rack bushings are a nice improvement over stock.
Does anyone know of any design changes other than the rack?
I would rebuild the IFS regardless of what it came from, the parts are cheap and upgrades like polyurethane steering rack bushings are a nice improvement over stock.
Does anyone know of any design changes other than the rack?
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I've been trying to get some information about the Jaguar suspension setup in the 70'same F100. I see people using the older xj6 stuff. I can't seem to find anyone talking about the XJS up to 1996 or 97? These are supposed to bolt right into the older xj6'style. So they will go right into one of our 1970'schedules F100'so.
anyone out there with information. Or pictures of this install??
anyone out there with information. Or pictures of this install??
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Direct fit...
As far as I know the XJS front suspension is not an upgrade from the older XJ6, only differences I know of are stiffer springs for the heavier engine and a different
design steering rack that started around 1992. I have one of the newer racks on the shelf that had been put into a 1986 XJ6.
I would rebuild the IFS regardless of what it came from, the parts are cheap and upgrades like polyurethane steering rack bushings are a nice improvement over stock.
Does anyone know of any design changes other than the rack?
design steering rack that started around 1992. I have one of the newer racks on the shelf that had been put into a 1986 XJ6.
I would rebuild the IFS regardless of what it came from, the parts are cheap and upgrades like polyurethane steering rack bushings are a nice improvement over stock.
Does anyone know of any design changes other than the rack?
I think the site that does this out here in California is Jaguarspecialties.com
#10
Frame...
. How wide is your older f1 frame. You say the xj6 is a bolt in or weld on cradle to your truck.
I'm really interested in knowing how wide your frame is??
#11
How is the XJS a better handling setup? It uses the same parts as an XJ6 including ball joints, control arms, bushings, etc..rack was redesigned due to leak issues with the Adler rack but not for steering ratio. So far all of my XJ6s from 1981 up all have tapered roller bearings, so not sure where the better bearing statement comes from.
Frame width doesnt matter, rails can be pinched, spread, or modified as needed. All that matters with an IFS swap is a track measurement that works with whatever you are building. There are many, many threads here and on other sites showing jag installs.
In the end these are pickup trucks and I seriously doubt you could tell the difference between the different jag setups. use what you can get your hands on and just do it, you could of already been done!
also I think my 51 frame 34" wide but it has been awhile since I measured, but just about anything can be made to work.
Frame width doesnt matter, rails can be pinched, spread, or modified as needed. All that matters with an IFS swap is a track measurement that works with whatever you are building. There are many, many threads here and on other sites showing jag installs.
In the end these are pickup trucks and I seriously doubt you could tell the difference between the different jag setups. use what you can get your hands on and just do it, you could of already been done!
also I think my 51 frame 34" wide but it has been awhile since I measured, but just about anything can be made to work.
#12
Opinions
How is the XJS a better handling setup? It uses the same parts as an XJ6 including ball joints, control arms, bushings, etc..rack was redesigned due to leak issues with the Adler rack but not for steering ratio. So far all of my XJ6s from 1981 up all have tapered roller bearings, so not sure where the better bearing statement comes from.
Frame width doesnt matter, rails can be pinched, spread, or modified as needed. All that matters with an IFS swap is a track measurement that works with whatever you are building. There are many, many threads here and on other sites showing jag installs.
In the end these are pickup trucks and I seriously doubt you could tell the difference between the different jag setups. use what you can get your hands on and just do it, you could of already been done!
also I think my 51 frame 34" wide but it has been awhile since I measured, but just about anything can be made to work.
Frame width doesnt matter, rails can be pinched, spread, or modified as needed. All that matters with an IFS swap is a track measurement that works with whatever you are building. There are many, many threads here and on other sites showing jag installs.
In the end these are pickup trucks and I seriously doubt you could tell the difference between the different jag setups. use what you can get your hands on and just do it, you could of already been done!
also I think my 51 frame 34" wide but it has been awhile since I measured, but just about anything can be made to work.
. XJS...... better rack, better bearings,,, much better brakes. 4 piston & Slotted rotors.
. I think you should use what ever setup you like out of any year you like. I'm just hear making statements that I believe. Seems you are here to make sure .... Never mind. I'm sounding like you,,, Sorry.
. Good luck with your build.
Last edited by Ltsgarage; 04-24-2017 at 02:15 PM. Reason: Spelling
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. My 73 frame is 34 inches wide. I'm not sure because I haven't measured you. But I think they are the same.
. XJS...... better rack, better bearings,,, much better brakes. 4 piston & Slotted.
. I think you should use what ever setup you like out of any year you like. I'm just hear making statements that I believe. Seems you are here to make sure .... Never mind. I'm sounding like you,,, Sorry.
. Good luck with your buid.
. XJS...... better rack, better bearings,,, much better brakes. 4 piston & Slotted.
. I think you should use what ever setup you like out of any year you like. I'm just hear making statements that I believe. Seems you are here to make sure .... Never mind. I'm sounding like you,,, Sorry.
. Good luck with your buid.