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Old 07-28-2016 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by fzrider998
Exactly! A lot of us have to do our own work and haul our own pellets and firewood simply so we can afford these trucks!


The payloads on the F250 are very disappointing. I always would haul a 1 ton pallet of pellets in my F150 Screw....handles just fine across the 12 miles trip I would make. But I sure was hoping to see a 2500 +/- payload on a F250, gasser, SCab, LB. Prolly not gonna happen.
Well, with the diesel having payloads of 2000+, I expect the gasser to be 600 +/- lbs more than that since the diesel weighs 600 +/- lbs more than the gasser. You are probably in luck.
 
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Old 07-28-2016 | 11:41 AM
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With all of that, yes the Michelin is the better all terrain tire. I have made multiple trips from Dearborn to Phoenix for winter testing and when I wasn't driving our F-450 towing trailers, i'll be in a F-350 SRW and usually have it fitted with 20" Michelins incase I encounter snow (Which happens frequently).
The Michelins I have on my 16 now are better than the Contis in snow but still not great. I run dedicated Nokian studded snows in the winter. Not sure what tire will come on my dually I ordered, hopefully decent in snow.
 
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Old 07-28-2016 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by troverman
The Michelins I have on my 16 now are better than the Contis in snow but still not great. I run dedicated Nokian studded snows in the winter. Not sure what tire will come on my dually I ordered, hopefully decent in snow.
Overall the Michelin (and many other) M+S moniker is really short for: good on the highway and maybe a little ways into the weather and off road. Anyone who really wants snow and mud performance needs to move to a soft rubber open tread pattern, preferably self cleaning. With the extra mild winters of late and overzealous plow and salt crews and only a touch of mud road driving the M+S are ok for that use but great for highway. Consistent treadwear around 60K makes them an economical choice for my use.

Remember (re: highway and M+S) One size fits all, fits no-one.
 
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Old 07-28-2016 | 11:55 AM
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Also looking for the numbers on a F350 with camper package and a F250 with the high capacity payload package.

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Old 07-28-2016 | 11:56 AM
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The Michelins I have on my 16 now are better than the Contis in snow but still not great. I run dedicated Nokian studded snows in the winter. Not sure what tire will come on my dually I ordered, hopefully decent in snow.


245/75R17 Michelin either an AT or AS depending on the package for a 350 DRW
 
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Old 07-28-2016 | 11:56 AM
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Old 07-28-2016 | 12:00 PM
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That 250 is a respectable 2850 lbs payload. Thanks for posting.
 
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Old 07-28-2016 | 12:00 PM
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MediumDan or somebody else can you find out the P/N .Nobody know it yet and ford don't install it on 4x2 so I need to do it myself.Thank you.
 
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Old 07-28-2016 | 12:09 PM
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Old 07-28-2016 | 12:13 PM
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M300 under a DRW 350. Learned today that it will have two versions. A light duty and a heavy duty version. The LD version will ride in the 350 DRW pickups and C&C trucks. The HD version is for the 450 pickup and chassis cabs from 450 to 550. The Dana 80, 110 and 130 are retired for the moment.







 
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Old 07-28-2016 | 12:21 PM
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Old 07-28-2016 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer
Also looking for the numbers on a F350 with camper package and a F250 with the high capacity payload package.

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x2. Thanks for posting all this up. Can't wait to check them out in person!
 
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Old 07-28-2016 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by troverman
Nope - you can just make out a current-gen Super Duty, XL Trim, just peaking out from behind the outhouse.

Where's the abuse? I only see some driving on dirt.

LCR, that makes no sense. A homeowner with a pellet stove needs to buy a "work truck" version of an F-250 because his loaded F-250 isn't capable of hauling a ton of wood pellets? I'm sure even at 2,000lbs payload it could still do it, just seems awful low for a 250 considering F-150 ratings.
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I tend to respectfully disagree with that statement. Thousands of people in the north heat with pellets and I believe the idea of a pallet of pellets was being used for example. Thousands heat with wood and use their "nice" trucks for cutting and hauling firewood. And thousands of northerners replace their own roofs, build their own buildings and do lots of things with their "nice" F-250's. There are also many with "nice" F-350's who never roll back their tonneau or pull a trailer.

The point being made is the payload on the example F-250 is surprisingly small and almost overlaps the F-150 which I believe is only a fraction the truck of the super duty. "We Own Work" is a tall statement and many expected increases across the board. And even if the truck cannot haul a 1 ton pallet, more than half of that weight should be within reason.
1/3 of all ford sales are fleet vehicles. More often than not Higher end ones aren't used to work day in and day out. The people on here make up the smallest group of people (those who purchase Lariat+ and also use it to the max when they need to) The vast majority of people who buy high end don't use it for work and the vast majority who work to the max don't buy high end.

The official answer is Vehicle weight vs. GVWR. If a f150 has a a GVWR of 7600 and weighs 5200 that leaves a payload of 2400. If a F250 has a GVWR of 10000 and weighs 8000 you have a payload of 2000. Its really that simple and I don't see why this discussion always comes up. If you want a crewcab F250 that hauls 3000lbs, they do make those, go buy one.
 
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Old 07-28-2016 | 12:41 PM
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245/75R17 Michelin either an AT or AS depending on the package for a 350 DRW
I ordered the A/T tires with black sidewalls. Don't care for the look of raised white letters on the duallys.

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Old 07-28-2016 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by troverman
I ordered the A/T tires with black sidewalls. Don't care for the look of raised white letters on the duallys.

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Good call, I'm not a fan of them either to be honest.
 


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