Hey will you help me?

I just acquired a 1958 Edsel corsair.

#1 - will you decode the vin for me? X8JW700275. Body info:
63A-HF-B-10J-4-A

#2 - I need a starter. Saw one on eBay that the guy claims will fit 58-60 Edsel and Lincoln and other fords.

Are the 410 engine starters compatible with other ford engines (272, 292, 312)?

Thanks very much, really preciate you spending your time to help us all.

Jerry

 

The FE starter (332, 352, 360, 390, 410, 427, 428) will not fit the "Y" block (272,292,312) engines. On top of that there was a flywheel tooth count $ starter change in the mid '60s on the FE engines and the 410 starter will not work on the earlier engines without a flywheel change.

 

I have interchanged starters between Y blocks and FE's sucessfully, I think the flywheel / starter upgrade happened in late 64 as my 65 T Bird has the later style small starter. A starter drive is available to use the small starter / late model on the older applications. As far as the 410ci engine I don't have any info on starter interchanges.

Have A Great Day ------ Hotwrench

 

Thanks guys for the replies.

So maybe a same-vintage FE starter say, from a 352, may fit?

I'll see if I can find info on FE parts interchange.

Thanks again

 

FE starters are readily available from a any of the major parts houses.

 

When you asked about the "410" starter, the 410 you were reffering to, was that the Edsel 410 (part of the 383, 410, 430, 462 M-E-L engines) or the FE 410 (part of the 332-428 family)?

 

It's the Edsel 410 in a '58 Edsel corsair.

 

Some of the early FE 9 tooth starter drives do use the same replacement part number as 58 Edsel 410. Standard # SDN5 for $70 and Airtek # 2K1012 for $80. These through 1961. In 1962 it shows a Airtek # 2K1012. Early parts shows a gap/space in the housing where the 62 part has no gap in the housing. These numbers and prices are from RockAuto site. They show pics. There was no complete rebuilt starters listed till 62. Just brushes and drives on the 61 and earlier. Not much help here but hopefully these guys can get ya straight.

 

That's what I thought. Just wanted to clear that up, I think the above posts thought you were reffering to the FE 410.
Sorry I can't help any further on the part numbers.
If Bill (numberdummy) doesn't answer in this forum, try sending him a PM.

 

X = 410 4V / B&S: 4.10" x 3.70." / This is not an FE engine! / FE 410 = 1966/67 Mercury Parklane only.

8 = 1958.

J = Los Angeles (Pico Rivera) CA Assembly Plant.

W = Corsair Two Door Hardtop.

700275 = 1958 Consecutive Unit Number.

Edsel 410 (and Edsel 361 FE, slight overbore of the 352) were only installed in 1958. This 410 was derived from the Lincoln 430.

FoMoCo expected to sell 200,000 Edsel's in 1958, but only 64,110 were sold. Total 1958/60 Edsel production: 110,847.

Because the 1958 "Dead-Sell" was a bust, the new Edsel Division was folded into the Lincoln-Mercury Division to form M-E-L (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln).

I do not have an Edsel parts catalog, so I cannot look up the starter. I would think it's the same as the 430 installed in: 1958/60 Mercury Parklane / 1958/65 Lincoln / As an option in 1959/60 Thunderbird's (352 was standard equipment).

FAY-11002-A .. 1959/60 T-Bird 430 Starter / Uses the gear reduction type Bendix Starter Drive (1CM-11350-C) used in all 1952/61 I-6 & V8 OHV engines (except 1960/61 144/170 I-6's).

 

Thanks I was hoping numbers dummy would see this and answer, but I will pm him tomorrow is he doesn't show up here. There's a decent price one on eBay but the guy only says it fits edsel, but doesn't say engine specific and I wouldn't think a straight six starter, for example, would fit my 410.

 

Thanks Bill, really do appreciate your time and thanks for the info! It will help.

 

Somewhere I have an MEL parts catalog and some other stuff of that vintage (I had an EDJ 430 that had been a NASCAR engine at one time). I will look for the stuff when I get home. Unfortunately my E475 (410) valve covers went on the 430 and the whole car was stolen from me by someone I though was a friend. It was a '58 Country Squire that I had put the 430 and a Hydramatic into along with a 2.69:1 Turnpike Cruiser gear.

 

Country Squire, Country Sedan, Ranch Wagon = Ford.

1958 Edsel: Bermuda = 4 dr wagon with wood decals, fibreglass 'wood' rails / Villager = 4 dr wagon, no wood / Roundup = 2dr wagon, no wood.

What did the Hydra-Matic come from...a Lincoln or a GM car? Was it a 4 speed single or dual range, or the problematic Jetaway intro'd in 1956?

Pre Jetaway's have no Park, reverse acts like a parking gear...with the engine off...that is.

 

Bill, it was a 1958 Ford Country Squire, I built my own frame brackets, used a Corvette cross flow copper brass radiator between the hood hinges and an expansion tank that I think came off a 63 Ford 352 or 390. The Lincoln exhaust manifolds just cleared everything. My local muffler shop used 2 1/2" mandrel bends and two Corvair Turbo mufflers for the exhaust. Damn thing would walk away from most traffic at 1/4 throttle. It took it just about 1 car length to really get on the cam and then it would haul, light both rear tires if you weren't careful. BTW, the exhaust would dust the driveway at idle.