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Old 08-07-2011 | 05:09 AM
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You guys are scaring the guy for no good reason. A lift kit doesn't make the truck inherently more dangerous, or less capable in the snow.

The driver is 90% of the equation. Keep your head out of your rectum, and a lifted truck will be fine. Especially when running 35" rubber. Less of the axle will be plowing snow.
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Just drive safely, that's what it comes down to.
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If you really want the 4 inch lift and 35's do it and buy a set of black steel wheels and snow tires for when it snows to keep your rims and 35's looking good. Spending an extra 800 bucks to know you will be ok when it is snowing seems worth it to me.
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do the lift, and get you some 35/12.5/??(Rim size) for good weather driving. Then have a set of cheap steel wheels and snow only tires. It's a bit expensive up front, but narrow, tall snow tires that you only use in the winter will get you anywhere, and also it will prevent your good rims from getting eaten up in the salt
 
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Old 08-07-2011 | 06:46 AM
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Jesus F. Christ. A lift kit raises a truck's center of gravity and its roll center making it more unstable, period. Ever read that Federally mandated sticker on your visor about driving vehicles with high centers of gravity? How about the chapter in your owner's manual?

What's wrong with you?

Let me know when you've managed to change the laws of physics, Einstein.

Get rid of the lift on your truck and get a bottle of Viagra. It's safer and your wife will thank you.
 
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Old 08-07-2011 | 07:24 AM
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I think you're going overboard there guy. Yes, it raises your center of gravity and therefore could be easier to roll. You're acting like its guaranteed though. As long as the OP doesn't drive like an ****** I'm pretty sure his truck will stay on all 4 wheels and do just fine in the snow provided he gets a good tire. I don't know, I've been driving mine for some time now on 35's and it hasn't flipped. Wierd..
 
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Old 08-07-2011 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNuge
I think you're going overboard there guy. Yes, it raises your center of gravity and therefore could be easier to roll. You're acting like its guaranteed though. As long as the OP doesn't drive like an ****** I'm pretty sure his truck will stay on all 4 wheels and do just fine in the snow provided he gets a good tire. I don't know, I've been driving mine for some time now on 35's and it hasn't flipped. Wierd..
It is not a matter of opinion. A jacked up truck has a higher center of gravity and a higher roll center.

The only opinion is you thinking it might not matter.
 
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Old 08-07-2011 | 08:15 PM
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yea....as a mechanical engineer....it WILL raise the center of gravity....no matter how you look at it....might be a minimal lift and not much will change....but the higher you go the greater the risk....
 
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Old 08-07-2011 | 09:39 PM
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This is a joke - right? I am not an engineer, but i don't think we need an engineer here, what we need is a little common sense. if you raise a f250 4" and add a set 35 x 12.50's the ratio really hasn't changed much, has it? Now if we were to go one step further and consider one other thing, the f250 and f350 are basically the same truck, except the 1 ton is 2" taller so, if you add a 4" lift on a f250 you are still only 2" taller than a stock f350. I have had both and currently have a08 f350 KR cc with 2.5" and 35 x 12.50 and I can tell you it would pretty hard to roll that beast on a paved road. Of coarse if you drive like an idiot, anything is possible. Get what you like and enjoy and don't worry, although I would have to agree with Tylus and have a second set for the nasty weather. good luck
 
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Old 08-07-2011 | 10:11 PM
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The crux of the matter is being responsible and knowing your vehicle. If you want a nice lifted truck, go for it. It isn't anymore dangerous than a stock truck. You just have to account for the higher CG and tires. So drive a bit slower, and keep more distance from other vehicles so you can stop in time.
Originally Posted by XB70
Jesus F. Christ. A lift kit raises a truck's center of gravity and its roll center making it more unstable, period. Ever read that Federally mandated sticker on your visor about driving vehicles with high centers of gravity? How about the chapter in your owner's manual?

What's wrong with you?

Let me know when you've managed to change the laws of physics, Einstein.

Get rid of the lift on your truck and get a bottle of Viagra. It's safer and your wife will thank you.
when did I say that Lift Kits didn't raise the CG? Ever? Don't think so. Read, Comprehend, Post...it's a good mantra to repeat when you are flying off the handle about a subject. kind of like "Whoosa"

1. yep, the truck can flip/roll over easier when lifted. Agree 100%.
2. Not everyone with a lift kit and big tires is carving corners and pretending the truck is a sports car.
3. If you are driving that fast in the snow, it's a foregone conclusion that you are going to wreck anyways. It's a stupid proposition with a stock truck, or a lifted truck, or a car.
4. This is my 4th truck lifted. I've never once flipped or rolled them. Never even been close. My current truck has the CG about 6" higher than stock. You won't find me doing any high speed maneavers. I'm actually driving the speed limit with it. It's huge and isn't nimble. Oh wait, I'm being responsible.

You seem to have an agenda against lifts. They aren't inherently dangerous. Just like a gun, it's the person behind the wheel/trigger who is the real danger. Any idiot can drive a bone stock truck and flip it, or drive a lifted one and flip it.

Please get off the high horse. It would be nicer if you could offer advice without attacking others simply because they don't bandwagon with whatever your opinion is. You could have simply stated your thoughts and given the OP something to consider. Instead you start calling users names because they had the audacity to contradict you. The nerve!!!!
 
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Old 08-07-2011 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FTPBusa
This is a joke - right? I am not an engineer, but i don't think we need an engineer here, what we need is a little common sense. if you raise a f250 4" and add a set 35 x 12.50's the ratio really hasn't changed much, has it? Now if we were to go one step further and consider one other thing, the f250 and f350 are basically the same truck, except the 1 ton is 2" taller so, if you add a 4" lift on a f250 you are still only 2" taller than a stock f350. I have had both and currently have a08 f350 KR cc with 2.5" and 35 x 12.50 and I can tell you it would pretty hard to roll that beast on a paved road. Of coarse if you drive like an idiot, anything is possible. Get what you like and enjoy and don't worry, although I would have to agree with Tylus and have a second set for the nasty weather. good luck

Hmmmm......I just happen to be one...I'm starting to think that you dont need to be here! hahahahahaha jk

Yes a 350 is 2in taller in the rear...CG is not great amount vs. a 250...neither is a 4" with 35"s...I was just saying That the CG does shift slightly and gets increasingly away from design intention the higher you go on the lift and the tires....facts are facts....Sorry I didnt come up with the laws of physics...

I'm not stating our trucks are not safe lifted or any other thing...
 
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Old 08-08-2011 | 01:04 PM
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It sure sounds like a 'Lifted trucks aren't safe" post.

If you take any vehicle and slide it Sideways at speed and then put a 8in Curb there for it to slam into Sideways it will flip. Doesn't matter if it is a Kia or a jacked up truck. Now the Higher you go the lower speed will be required to roll it. So driving straight down the road in the snow, Straight down the road in the snow, in a truck with a 4 FOOT lift will do nothing to make you roll. It is when you turn the steering wheel or Stop going Straight down the rood. You can roll your Stock pick up if you take a corner on Dry pavement at 70 mph. They do it all the time here on the freeway.

Having a lift will not change your traction. If you need sand in the bed for traction in a stock truck, given the same conditions in the same truck you will need sand in the lifted version.

Lifting your truck will create drag and lower your fuel mileage.

The OP asked a question and he was getting answers then the Stock truck guys came in and started beating him up and telling horror stories to try and talk this guy in to Not lifting his truck. If you did not have a answer for this question I don't think your reply was asked for. Of course this is the problem with all forums, when looking for help you have to sift through the guys who want to force their opinion on you un asked.
 
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Old 08-08-2011 | 01:48 PM
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F250 and F350 4x4 are same height.

Originally Posted by FTPBusa
This is a joke - right? I am not an engineer, but i don't think we need an engineer here, what we need is a little common sense. if you raise a f250 4" and add a set 35 x 12.50's the ratio really hasn't changed much, has it? Now if we were to go one step further and consider one other thing, the f250 and f350 are basically the same truck, except the 1 ton is 2" taller so, if you add a 4" lift on a f250 you are still only 2" taller than a stock f350. I have had both and currently have a08 f350 KR cc with 2.5" and 35 x 12.50 and I can tell you it would pretty hard to roll that beast on a paved road. Of coarse if you drive like an idiot, anything is possible. Get what you like and enjoy and don't worry, although I would have to agree with Tylus and have a second set for the nasty weather. good luck
 
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Old 08-08-2011 | 08:30 PM
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Installing the 12.5 lift this weekend. Would appreciate any advice you guys have
 
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Old 08-08-2011 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Megaw
Installing the 12.5 lift this weekend. Would appreciate any advice you guys have
Don't modify the cat with a hammer. Take lots of pictures... then post them.
 
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Old 08-08-2011 | 09:50 PM
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you old worry worts crack me up!



to the OP: lift your truck if you like! I love my lifted truck! I've had it everywhere from sand dunes, mud, snow, and downtown LA and haven't even came close to flipping my tip over truck yet. I've had my truck in some pretty interesting positions off road, like one back tire hanging off the ground a foot and it still felt solid and stuck to the ground.
 
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Old 08-08-2011 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by XB70
Jesus F. Christ. A lift kit raises a truck's center of gravity and its roll center making it more unstable, period. Ever read that Federally mandated sticker on your visor about driving vehicles with high centers of gravity? How about the chapter in your owner's manual?

What's wrong with you?

Let me know when you've managed to change the laws of physics, Einstein.

Get rid of the lift on your truck and get a bottle of Viagra. It's safer and your wife will thank you.
There are a lot of uninformed ignorant people who don't have a clue of what they speak of. Dude its your truck do with it what you like. I live near LA and travel the roadways here a lot. If i havent flipped mine yet with LA driving you wont either. Don't drive crazy and you are GTG
 
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Old 08-08-2011 | 10:47 PM
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Will lifting your truck raise your center of gravity? YES
Will it make a real-world day-to-day difference? NO
Are there stupid people out there who roll lifted truck? YES
Are there stupid people out there who roll stock height trucks? YES

END OF DEBATE/ARGUING

It's your truck. Do what you want to it. No one will fault you for your decisions to do what you wanted to your vehicle.
(Although some will loudly give you their strong opinion.)
 



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